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12-30-2018, 12:23 PM
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Broken Spring hanger
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2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD Duramax Diesel 4x4 SWD
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"Camping is not just a past time it is my relaxing way of life"
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12-30-2018, 01:22 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Thanks for the heads up.
A good reminder for everyone to periodically look at things you would think would last forever.
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12-31-2018, 04:37 PM
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Thanks for the post. I was just installing never fail bushings on my 360IBL a few weeks ago and wondered if the hangers ever break off. Lord knows I beat them hard enough.
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2016 RAM 3500 DRW 4x4 LB LoneStar, w/RDS 33Gal Aux tank, Timbrens, Andersen Ultimate2, SwiftHitch SH04
2018 Chaparral 360IBL w/TST507 TPMS, Lippert GC3 Autolevel, Furrion Backup Cam, Progressive HW50C
2006 RAM 3500 DRW LoneStar Edition
2011 Starcraft 392BHUw/Andersen No-Sway
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12-31-2018, 05:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaps2018
Thanks for the post. I was just installing never fail bushings on my 360IBL a few weeks ago and wondered if the hangers ever break off. Lord knows I beat them hard enough.
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Where did you purchase the No Fail Bushings and what size did you purchase? Thanks.
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2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD Duramax Diesel 4x4 SWD
2015 360IBL Coachmen 5th Wheel
"Camping is not just a past time it is my relaxing way of life"
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12-31-2018, 05:10 PM
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Broken Spring hanger
I got this kit. Lippert 281285 Never Fail Shackle and Bolt Kit for Double Axle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BFUA9TQ..._lnPkCbBEVNWNV I should have gotten just the bushings only kit since I am planning on installing the correct track alignment/lift kit.
The bushing-only kit is $55
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2016 RAM 3500 DRW 4x4 LB LoneStar, w/RDS 33Gal Aux tank, Timbrens, Andersen Ultimate2, SwiftHitch SH04
2018 Chaparral 360IBL w/TST507 TPMS, Lippert GC3 Autolevel, Furrion Backup Cam, Progressive HW50C
2006 RAM 3500 DRW LoneStar Edition
2011 Starcraft 392BHUw/Andersen No-Sway
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12-31-2018, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaps2018
I got this kit. Lippert 281285 Never Fail Shackle and Bolt Kit for Double Axle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BFUA9TQ..._lnPkCbBEVNWNV I should have gotten just the bushings only kit since I am planning on installing the correct track alignment/lift kit.
The bushing-only kit is $55
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Thank you.
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2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD Duramax Diesel 4x4 SWD
2015 360IBL Coachmen 5th Wheel
"Camping is not just a past time it is my relaxing way of life"
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02-09-2019, 01:24 PM
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I keep seeing this name "LIPPERT" who are they? And what do they do?
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02-09-2019, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Pedrick
I keep seeing this name "LIPPERT" who are they? And what do they do?
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They make the Chassis, slide mechanisms and many more items. See their website. They are the major and in some cases only supplier for these types of components to the RV industry.
https://www.lci1.com/
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Joe and Diane Buskirk
2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD Duramax Diesel 4x4 SWD
2015 360IBL Coachmen 5th Wheel
"Camping is not just a past time it is my relaxing way of life"
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02-10-2019, 08:45 AM
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Also they make Ground Control 3.0 auto-leveling system which I am currently in the process of installing on my 360IBL
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2016 RAM 3500 DRW 4x4 LB LoneStar, w/RDS 33Gal Aux tank, Timbrens, Andersen Ultimate2, SwiftHitch SH04
2018 Chaparral 360IBL w/TST507 TPMS, Lippert GC3 Autolevel, Furrion Backup Cam, Progressive HW50C
2006 RAM 3500 DRW LoneStar Edition
2011 Starcraft 392BHUw/Andersen No-Sway
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02-11-2019, 01:37 AM
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Senior Member
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I am adding braces across the trailer to strengthen the spring hangers. This is an all too common problem with Lippert frames. Seems to be a bigger issue on spread axles.
I installed the greasable Morryde shackle and bolt kit.
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02-11-2019, 01:51 AM
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Call Garth Collins at Lippert and have him pay for the labor to fix your suspension. After my spring hanger fell off after 14 months and 4k miles, I threatened to sue them for putting a garbage frame on the road. Turned out the welds didn't bond well and the trailer was a rolling disaster. To answer Lee's question, Lippert is the company that should be shut down by the NTSB for "manufacturing" products for profit at the expense of putting people in harm's way. Their quality control is terrible and they juke and jive around the facts when they're actually called out on it.
To repair mine, the welder had to reinforce the frame by welding 1/4" plate steel that was 2"x70". The spring hangers were then welded to the plate steel. It stiffened things up substantially. I will likely add more steel crossbracing at some point. The welder needs to look at it once I have 500+ miles on the repair.
That one broken weld has been the most stressful and frustrating part of owning my trailer. Had I known about that garbage quality, I would have never bought a travel trailer.
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02-11-2019, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkbre
Call Garth Collins at Lippert and have him pay for the labor to fix your suspension. After my spring hanger fell off after 14 months and 4k miles, I threatened to sue them for putting a garbage frame on the road. Turned out the welds didn't bond well and the trailer was a rolling disaster. To answer Lee's question, Lippert is the company that should be shut down by the NTSB for "manufacturing" products for profit at the expense of putting people in harm's way. Their quality control is terrible and they juke and jive around the facts when they're actually called out on it.
To repair mine, the welder had to reinforce the frame by welding 1/4" plate steel that was 2"x70". The spring hangers were then welded to the plate steel. It stiffened things up substantially. I will likely add more steel crossbracing at some point. The welder needs to look at it once I have 500+ miles on the repair.
That one broken weld has been the most stressful and frustrating part of owning my trailer. Had I known about that garbage quality, I would have never bought a travel trailer.
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I, too, called Lippert to explain my situation and was told that it was not under warranty and transferred me to parts. Ironically, they sent me the parts free. I was not as forceful as I should have been. I did file with the NHTSB, a complaint, nothing back to date. I feel the same frustration. I told my wife after this broke that I wanted to sell this piece of sh___ and call camping quits. But we enjoy camping so I will pick up the pieces and try to make the best and contend with this piece of junk.
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Joe and Diane Buskirk
2015 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD Duramax Diesel 4x4 SWD
2015 360IBL Coachmen 5th Wheel
"Camping is not just a past time it is my relaxing way of life"
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02-11-2019, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by buskirk21921
I, too, called Lippert to explain my situation and was told that it was not under warranty and transferred me to parts. Ironically, they sent me the parts free. I was not as forceful as I should have been. I did file with the NHTSB, a complaint, nothing back to date. I feel the same frustration. I told my wife after this broke that I wanted to sell this piece of sh___ and call camping quits. But we enjoy camping so I will pick up the pieces and try to make the best and contend with this piece of junk.
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Its an absolute uncalled for frustration. Remember the last time a Ford, Chevy or Dodge spring hanger broke off after 250K miles?......me either!
Can good welding be done? Yes!
Is good welding done by Lippert? A confirmed F#$% NO!!!
They don't care! Put the screws to them. You paid good money for a good trailer!. Expect and demand that!
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