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11-16-2017, 05:06 PM
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On my Hyperlite I decided not to get them, but wish I had. The few windows that slide up are very hard to open, almost demanding a third hand, but the double pane operators / locks work far better. They might keep out a little of the noise and might stop some of the sweating, but I like them because they or at least some models operate better.
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11-16-2017, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oregon
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Have had four campers, five 5th wheels and one Allegro Bus. Double pane windows in our Newmar 5th, Arctic Fox 5th, the Bus and now a new Cedar Creek. Would never be without them, especially in the Northwest. With dual panes, we never have to wipe windows every morning and no water stains down the walls. Only one window has ever fogged over due to a seal leak and that was in the Bus. The units without the dual panes were always wet during the cool rainy nights here in Oregon, especially when we had to use the furnace.
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11-16-2017, 05:58 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: East St Paul, Mb
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunterrick
Regardless of what others have said, I highly recommend them. They do not condense when camping in cold weather and are much quieter. I have had no trouble to date with seals or fogging. I would order them again without question.
Good luck
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We have them and it is a world of difference over our last rv. Don't spend any time wiping up condensation leaks any more. We do camp in a variety of temps though.
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11-16-2017, 06:49 PM
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Have any of you had dual pane windows for more than seven or eight years? I'm just wondering how long they will go before they fog up.
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11-16-2017, 07:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banda
Have any of you had dual pane windows for more than seven or eight years? I'm just wondering how long they will go before they fog up.
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Great question! We plan on keeping this 5th wheel for many years. I'd hate to spend the money and several years later the start to fog.
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11-16-2017, 11:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
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Not sure about other brands. But when I was ordering my Wildcat Maxx the dealer actually persuaded me not to buy the double pane windows. They were somewhere around $1700. And he indicted they had not had good luck with them. They have about 15 dealerships throughout the NW. And they did say they added a substantial amount of weight.
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11-17-2017, 12:19 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Edmonton
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We have them on our 5th wheel & I like them . No problems yet. Its quieter & no condensation.
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11-17-2017, 08:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunterrick
Regardless of what others have said, I highly recommend them. They do not condense when camping in cold weather and are much quieter. I have had no trouble to date with seals or fogging. I would order them again without question.
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Yes on the double pane windows. We have had our 5er four years with no issues with the double pane dark tinted windows. would purchase them again.
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11-17-2017, 10:09 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Alberta - East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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This is our 3rd RV with dual pane windows and I do highly recommend them for anybody using their trailer more than occasionally. In our last trailer we had one window that didn't have the option and we ended up covering it with window film and Reflectix.
There may be different manufacturers offering different quality construction, I don't know, but we are very happy with our Hehr frameless windows. Btw., we haven't seen temperatures above freezing for the last 3 weeks and not the faintest sign of condensation anywhere and definitely no drafty feeling anywhere near a window.
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11-17-2017, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Iowa
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Our Class A pusher had dual panes and it was truly a PAIN. The seals on these windows tends to break down and causes foggy viewing. It's not a inexpensive item to correct and IMHO, not worth the cost to maintain and replace!
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11-17-2017, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Middle GA
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So, like everything else with an RV, it is a trade-off and a bit of gambling at the same time. Maybe you'll get lucky and have no problems.
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11-17-2017, 10:49 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Our one experience with double-pane windows
We ordered them when our 2016 Salem Hemisphere 356QB fifth wheel was still at the factory in in 2015. So far, they have not clouded up, but it has become apparent to us that the double pane windows are probably NOT worth the extra $1600 we paid unless the rest of the rig is built well insulated, which ours was not. Also, if you have aluminum frame windows as we do, the windows still shed a lot of water condensation on the inside walls of the rig, which are also shedding condensation especially in the slide outs, due to their thin insulation. This was made worse when, as a consequence of the thin insulation, we ran a supplemental vent-less propane heater which gives off quite a bit of water vapor. We have since ditched that, and resolved to stick with electric heaters until we can replace the rig.
If your rig has good insulation in the walls and you get the frameless type windows and control moisture effectively, it theoretically should turn out better.
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11-17-2017, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 182
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Double pane windows
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Originally Posted by Brewhedd
Double pane windows do help a little in regards to noise and heat loss. They do nothing as far as heat gain from direct sunlight unless combined with Low E glass. They eventually cloud due to failure of the seal. Consider that RV's use the cheapest products available and initial/ replacement cost is high. The salesman that said not to get them is probably steering you in the right direction.
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Let's see what would cause a Thermo-pane window to fail. Hum.......I KNOW! Shaking, movement, constant use, more shaking, rough road, our wonderful interstate system, is equivalent to mini earthquakes. I think I would look hard at the initial expense and replacement costs, before purchasing. Good salesman.
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11-18-2017, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 454
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twdenman
Let's see what would cause a Thermo-pane window to fail. Hum.......I KNOW! Shaking, movement, constant use, more shaking, rough road, our wonderful interstate system, is equivalent to mini earthquakes. I think I would look hard at the initial expense and replacement costs, before purchasing. Good salesman.
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We've decided to nix the double pane windows. Just from a weight factor we'll pass. Let alone replacement cost. Our salesman today shared much of the sentiments that everyone here has. In 20 years he only sold one set.
He's a straight up guy and we've bought 2 RV's from him and possibly this 5th if we decide it's right for us.
Thanks everyone
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01-23-2018, 02:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
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One thing to always keep in mind, RV/TT double pane windows are not thermo windows. They do not use Low E glass and they are not sealed with gas (typically Argon) between the panes. They are just simply two layer windows. As has been mentioned, they do help a little on sound deadening. Maybe a bigger deal for those that only park camp, not so much for those who disperse camp. There are alternative, and much cheaper, ways to go to get better cold weather / hot weather insulation at the windows.
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