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Old 04-09-2021, 07:39 PM   #1
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Where Does Your Water Come From

When dry camping do you get your water at the campsite or take it from your home?
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If there is a water fillup near the campsite, we fill up there. Why haul all that weight if you don't have to.

We only drink bottled water when camping though so we do haul that.
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When I know I'm going to be dry camping, I fill up with fresh water at the nearest location to where I'll be dry camping. Usually, the RV islands at truck stops (such as Pilot/Flying J) have potable water pumps right next to the fuel island.
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When dry camping do you get your water at the campsite or take it from your home?
We fill from home before leaving.
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:21 AM   #5
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If there is a water fillup near the campsite, we fill up there. Why haul all that weight if you don't have to.

We only drink bottled water when camping though so we do haul that.
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When I know I'm going to be dry camping, I fill up with fresh water at the nearest location to where I'll be dry camping. Usually, the RV islands at truck stops (such as Pilot/Flying J) have potable water pumps right next to the fuel island.
Thank you, that's what I was thinking. My TT holds 45 gallons which weights 375 pounds. That doesn't seem to make sense to haul that much weight if I don't have too. Do you at least carry a minimum amount of water in case of an emergency like having to use the bathroom?
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Thank you, that's what I was thinking. My TT holds 45 gallons which weights 375 pounds. That doesn't seem to make sense to haul that much weight if I don't have too. Do you at least carry a minimum amount of water in case of an emergency like having to use the bathroom?
Most folks I know travel with 4-5 gallons in the fresh water tank for roadside rest stops and hand washing. I am also a bottled water user.
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Most folks I know travel with 4-5 gallons in the fresh water tank for roadside rest stops and hand washing. I am also a bottled water user.
4-5 gallons sounds reasonable. I've always filled up at home but recently thought that wasn't good weight management.
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Our fresh tank is always filled.

If you believe 300 lbs.+- makes a difference in MPG or performance, you are either mistaken or have the wrong rig/tow vehicle.

That's like saying to your three teenage kids... " sorry, you can't go on this caming trip... we can't haul the extra 300 lbs."

Does your rig get a tremendous jump in fuel mileage as your fuel tank gets to a 1/4 tank than it does when full?
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Our fresh tank is always filled.

If you believe 300 lbs.+- makes a difference in MPG or performance, you are either mistaken or have the wrong rig/tow vehicle.

That's like saying to your three teenage kids... " sorry, you can't go on this caming trip... we can't haul the extra 300 lbs."

Does your rig get a tremendous jump in fuel mileage as your fuel tank gets to a 1/4 tank than it does when full?
1st of all I said 375 lbs that's almost 400 lbs. 2nd my truck has no problem with the weight. 3rd Why carry an extra 375 pounds when you don't have too. And 4th my kids are grown up so I don't have to tell them they can't come! But thanks for you comment.
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Our fresh tank is always filled.

If you believe 300 lbs.+- makes a difference in MPG or performance, you are either mistaken or have the wrong rig/tow vehicle.

That's like saying to your three teenage kids... " sorry, you can't go on this caming trip... we can't haul the extra 300 lbs."

Does your rig get a tremendous jump in fuel mileage as your fuel tank gets to a 1/4 tank than it does when full?
On my rig with the tank at the extreme front of the trailer the 350 lbs will impact my tongue weight.
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On my rig with the tank at the extreme front of the trailer the 350 lbs will impact my tongue weight.
Thanks, that's something else to factor in. Great point!
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A couple of places where I drycamp/boondock are a long ways from any water source so I fill it all the way up before leaving home plus fill a 40 gallon bladder that fits between the fifth wheel hitch and tailgate. I manage to drag it all up the mountain ok. The fw tank on the trailer is centered over the axles and rides real well. When we are done and the black and gray tanks get full they are farther forward and you can really tell it.
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I bring water from home, but almost never fill the tank. I drink water from my well in a blue water container, not from the RV. I have left home empty and forgotten to fill the water tank. Boondocking in the West can be a long way from anywhere, so I make sure and bring water from home.
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Our fresh tank is always filled.

If you believe 300 lbs.+- makes a difference in MPG or performance, you are either mistaken or have the wrong rig/tow vehicle.

That's like saying to your three teenage kids... " sorry, you can't go on this caming trip... we can't haul the extra 300 lbs."

Does your rig get a tremendous jump in fuel mileage as your fuel tank gets to a 1/4 tank than it does when full?
You are so right.
I returned from a camping trip yesterday and I had an opportunity too do a n experiment regarding what REALLY kills gas mileage when towing. Both on my way to my destination and return home I had to drive down a couple of long, 5%+ grades. One was 10 miles long and the other about half that.

When I drive these hills without my trailer I can coast down them with little or no throttle, often having to hit the brakes to keep down to the speed limit.

On the way over to my campsite, coasting down the 10 mile grade with no throttle my max speed was 55-60 mph with the trailer acting like a huge parachute. On the shorter grade returning home (west side of mountain) same results, 55-60 mph with no throttle or braking.

The BIGGEST impact on fuel mileage when towing is speed. Once you start pushing enough air with that huge "Barn Door" it's going to take more and more fuel to maintain speed. My TT is 7' wide and ~10' tall. 70 square feet of area pushing against the "pull" of the truck.

As for carrying water, always leave with full tank of "home water". Only took one trip about 20 years ago when I assumed I could I could get water where I was going. Bad mistake never to be repeated again.

Maybe water is available everywhere in the eastern half of the US but out west not so much. At least water I'd want to drink, shower, or brush my teeth with.
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On my rig with the tank at the extreme front of the trailer the 350 lbs will impact my tongue weight.
Not to dispute your tank's location but on many trailers the tank is mounted just ahead of the axles with only the gravity fill port at the extreme front.

Regardless, only a fraction of the water's weight is actually added to the tongue weight with the rest being added to axle weight.

A good WDH can usually handle tongue weight issues provided you have "enough truck".
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Not to dispute your tank's location but on many trailers the tank is mounted just ahead of the axles with only the gravity fill port at the extreme front. Yet you seem to although you admit to having no knowledge of this particulate trailer.

Regardless, only a fraction of the water's weight is actually added to the tongue weight with the rest being added to axle weight. I have a Sherline scale will do a test this weekend and report back. It will determine how well you guess on your answers

A good WDH can usually handle tongue weight issues provided you have "enough truck".
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1st of all I said 375 lbs that's almost 400 lbs. 2nd my truck has no problem with the weight. 3rd Why carry an extra 375 pounds when you don't have too. And 4th my kids are grown up so I don't have to tell them they can't come! But thanks for you comment.
You can get as snarky with me as you want but I'll say it again for your own safety and those around you when towing... if your rig is so close on tolerances that 350 or even 500 lbs. makes a profound impact on your set-up or fuel mileage you have the incorrect combination.

Towing for over 50 years with all types of trailers my fuel mileage never changed with/without water or whether we had all our kids, the neighbors kids and the dogs.

If that water weight has you so concerned about whether to take it or not you've defeated the entire premise of what a R/V is all about.

For those of us that regularly camp without hook-ups and haul a full water tank along with additional water jugs and whatever else we choose to take, we get along just fine. We're not worried whether we'll have .001 drop in fuel efficiency or if it upsets our towing set-up because we've planned in advance to handle it.

Why carry it if you don't have to?.... you've obviously never experienced not getting to the destination you planned to fill your tank because of bad weather or a breakdown or arrived somewhere where the water you thought was available, wasn't.

You asked the question and I gave you answers and why. If you choose to read past what I wrote that's your prerogative. Those of us that do it, know better.
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We always travel with the freshwater tank full of city water regardless if our campsite will have water or not. Rarely use public toilets at the rest areas, my own is only 20 feet away. I realize the Chicken Littles don't drink the water from their tank but we use it just like at home. If there's city water on site we switch to that otherwise keep filling the onboard tank via the 35 gallon auxiliary tank I carry (empty to start) in the back of the truck.

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Not to dispute your tank's location but on many trailers the tank is mounted just ahead of the axles with only the gravity fill port at the extreme front.did my homework Tank is 30.5"x60"X4" to the bottom of the overflow invert. 7320 Cubic inches of water or 31 gallons. Center of tank is 82" from CL of the coupler and 136" from centerline of front axle of the twin axles.

Regardless, only a fraction of the water's weight is actually added to the tongue weight with the rest being added to axle weight. TW no water was 1025 lbs TW with 31 gallons of water 1165. If you have trouble with fractions over half the weight went to the tongue 140 lbs of the 257 added

A good WDH can usually handle tongue weight issues provided you have "enough truck".Seem to be from the "get a bigger hammer school to make it fit"
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I too have a scale and like I said, only a fraction is added to the tongue weight. In your case just over 1/2.


The trailer was built to carry a full tank of water and the resultant tongue weight (assuming proper cargo loading) so if truck is sagging a larger hitch or a larger truck is NOT just a bigger hammer, but a proper "fix".
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