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Old 09-12-2015, 09:58 AM   #1
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Best water filter system for questionable supply???

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I'm looking to source a water filter system to install on my 2010 Wildwood. Currently, it does not have a filter system. The park that we stay quite frequently has a perpetual boil order in place and I guess this is probably a CYA notice since no one in the park has had any issues to my knowledge. We use bottled water for drinking but having a wife and 2 daughters that love showers & baths, I 'm starting to get concerned about the (possible) water quality
. I've read a lot of threads here on the forum about nightmares with on-board filtration systems leaking / rupturing so I would like a system I can install outside of the trailer. Maybe I'm being too cautious but I'd rather be safe than sorry. Has anyone here thought along the same lines? What would you recommend? I should state that will be my first mod for our next camping season!
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:24 AM   #2
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boiling is to kill bacteria, and I'm not sure there is a filter for that.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:50 AM   #3
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There are filers that can get down to bacteria sized contaminant removal but an RV sized one would flow so slowly that adding one would not be practical for bath/shower flow rates. The other option is reverse osmosis, but the tank used to supply the treated water would also not be large enough in an RV sized package to supply you with enough water for bathing.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:39 PM   #4
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Thanks to you both for the replies.
I did find a Rainfresh system that filters down to 0.3 micron which will take of bacteria but it only flows at 1.0 gpm / 40 psi which would make for a slow shower to be sure! I've only started looking at this issue today so maybe I'll keep looking / searching to see if anything else is available. If I do find something, I'll post it online for comments.
By the way, how low of a flow can you reasonably use in a shower?
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This is arguably the best source of information you Wil find on RV water filtration.
https://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/FAQ.htm
If you are looking to take sediment out of your water a filter will work however if your water is contaminated you really should have a reverse osmosis system.
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Old 09-12-2015, 03:57 PM   #6
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How about using the filter to fill the tank. Then use the tank and pump to shower. Low flow might not matter to much when filling the tank.

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I use the Purr 1 micron filter element in my unit and don't have a problem with water flow. Have been using a 5-micron filter and just decided to see if there was a flow difference. You will be surprised just what shows up in the filter bowl when you change out the element.
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Old 09-13-2015, 12:33 PM   #8
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I use the Purr 1 micron filter element in my unit and don't have a problem with water flow. Have been using a 5-micron filter and just decided to see if there was a flow difference. You will be surprised just what shows up in the filter bowl when you change out the element.
What kind of filtration unit are you using? Brand? Model?
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If you are looking to take sediment out of your water a filter will work however if your water is contaminated you really should have a reverse osmosis system.
RO units don't remove bacteria or other organisms. US ships with RO units have to treat the water if they make it within 4 miles of land because of this. Ships that still use a steam distilling system don't have to treat the water because the heat kills all the detrimental bacteria.
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Could you use a UV filter, if you are on shore power. Not sure what the flow rate is on them.
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Old 09-13-2015, 03:49 PM   #11
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We use a flow pur system with #5 & # 7 at the water hose connection and a # 6 in the filter housing in the trailer and don't notice any water pressure drop.
We pump water straight out of the lake at our seasonal site and our tests come back clean.
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:16 PM   #12
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I disagree with your statement that reverse osmosis systems do not remove bacteria. Here is the definition of a reverse osmosis system

Reverse osmosis can remove many types of*molecules*and*ions*from solutions, including bacteria, and is used in both industrial processes and the production ofpotable water.
I'm not interested in a back and forth just a clarification for the OP.
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On my first U.S. Navy ship we used bromine resin cartridges to treat our drinking water. We were not allowed to distill to the fresh water tanks when we were within 12 nautical miles of land, as noted above that was because of bacteria. The only time we distilled to fresh water in a port was in Karachi, Pakistan. The water we were getting from the pier connection was so terrible the commanding officer allowed us to distill to fresh. We hyper-brominated the water and the corpsman tested the water six ways from Sunday. No one got sick, but the water had a bad taste, especially when we brushed our teeth. I operated the distilling plants and treated the water as part of my duties in the engine room.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:21 PM   #14
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Big Blue - 2 Stage Water Filter System

I was using the RV CARBON WATER FILTER 40043by Camco for years. I would go through 2 a season, but I was always worried that there would be damage to the filter when I was not using it (unplugged). You definitely know when they expire by the restricted flow rate. Finagling with it during setup/breakdown was an inconvenience. I wanted great water anywhere I went without hauling gallons for bottled water!

After weeks of investigating, I went with a 2 stage Big Blue Whole House Water Filter System KDF55/GAC & SEDIMENT Filters 4.5" x 10" ( 221608555445). These systems are built for homes, so I knew it would last all season long and have not restrictions on flow rates at lower pressures. Found the whole system on Ebay including the 5 micron segment filter and KDF55/GAC filter for less then $100 (kit). Filter changes per season will run $20.

KDF is known to kill algae and fungi, control bacteria growth, and remove chlorine, pesticides, organic matter, rust, unpleasant taste and odor, hydrogen sulfide, iron, lead, nickel, chromium, cadmium, calcium, aluminium, mercury, arsenic, and other organic compounds. Activated carbon filters (GAC) remove/reduce many volatile organic chemicals (VOC), pesticides and herbicides, as well as chlorine, benzene, trihalomethane (THM) compounds, radon, solvents, and hundreds of other man-made chemicals.

I went with a hybrid Activated Carbon and KDF55 filter because the camper would sit for two weeks at a time. Pure carbon filters do not prevent bacterial growth and it would make it unsafe.

I reworked the incoming water line with PEX. I've included two pictures of the installed system under the bed, next to the inlet (including a bypass).
We have used it all season this year and loved the convenience and clarity of our water. One of the best mods to our camper!!!
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:11 AM   #15
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I use your basic Culligan whole house filter canister with the shut off which is available anywhere basicly. It has 3/4 nptf threads on both ends. You can easily source a brass 3/4 nptm x ghtm and 3/4 nptm x ghtf fittings (ght= garden hose thread) to put a hose on both ends of it. ANY water going into the TT in either the city water connection or into the potable tank or my two jerry cans goes through it. I use the cheap odor, sediment and taste cartridges and keep a spare on hand when I notice decreased flow. Works for me. I intend to eliminate the FR canister/high priced filter very soon. Many CGs have sediment issues, haven't found any with boil orders. If there was that issue with any regularity, I'd look into another spot to camp!
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Thanks to you both for the replies.
I did find a Rainfresh system that filters down to 0.3 micron which will take of bacteria but it only flows at 1.0 gpm / 40 psi which would make for a slow shower to be sure! I've only started looking at this issue today so maybe I'll keep looking / searching to see if anything else is available. If I do find something, I'll post it online for comments.
By the way, how low of a flow can you reasonably use in a shower?
Try an oxygenics shower head...you'l love it
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Word of caution about filling fresh tank with filtered water

Jeff,
It is not recommended that you filter out the chlorine from the water you store in the fresh water (portable) tank. Even bottled water is treated to an extent from going bad. Non-treated water will mold and mildew within weeks (faster on hot days). I don't recommend ever drinking this water, but for use in the shower/toilet/sink. Just to be safe...

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I use your basic Culligan whole house filter canister with the shut off which is available anywhere basicly. It has 3/4 nptf threads on both ends. You can easily source a brass 3/4 nptm x ghtm and 3/4 nptm x ghtf fittings (ght= garden hose thread) to put a hose on both ends of it. ANY water going into the TT in either the city water connection or into the potable tank or my two jerry cans goes through it. I use the cheap odor, sediment and taste cartridges and keep a spare on hand when I notice decreased flow. Works for me. I intend to eliminate the FR canister/high priced filter very soon. Many CGs have sediment issues, haven't found any with boil orders. If there was that issue with any regularity, I'd look into another spot to camp!
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