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Old 04-21-2019, 02:08 PM   #1
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Black Tank Drain Hose Help

My wife and I are new to RVing and I would like to get a good grasp on what you experienced RV people think is a good tough black water hose. How long should it be? I like the idea of the clear plastic fittings so you can see what's going on. I have seen a ramp type of hose holder advertised that you spread out and it tapers down and holds the drain hose. Is this worth having? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated since I have never done this before and I sure don't want to make any mistakes when it comes time to dump the tank.
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:29 PM   #2
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Black Tank Drain Hose Help

I have 3 or 4 hoses, but the only one I use is my Rhino. I have a clear fitting on the dump end so I can tell whatís going on. I think my hose is 20 ft I have an extension, but I have never needed it.

I do not have a ramp, but I have thought about buying one. The only reason I didnít was because of the price for $2 worth of plastic. You only need it if you are camping with full hook ups. Itís required in some CGs if you leave the hose connected.

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Old 04-21-2019, 02:30 PM   #3
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I use Rhino Hose, a fifteen foot and a ten foot
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I got a RhinoFlex kit that had two 10 foot sections, caps and a white translucent elbow for the ground connection. I added a clear 45 and extra valve with bayonet fittings at the trailer. I also carry an extra 15í hose. If you get a RhinoFlex hose, tighten the collars on the hose before you use it, and check them occasionally.

I use a folding trestle support for the hose and bought two cheap plastic gutters and cut them to fit in the truck bed. I put the gutter pieces on the trestle then lay the hose in it. If I donít have a positive connection with the pipe at the campground, Iíll wrap some electrical tape around the pipe and elbow.

Youíll get good suggestions here and find out what works best for you.

Donít forget some rubber gloves.
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I also bought a tote to put everything sewer related in. Using the bumper isnít that great and it wonít hold the extra fittings.
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:47 PM   #6
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Black Tank Drain Hose

I see that the Rhino drain hose comes in 15ft and 20ft. Any opinions on the shorter or longer one? Would the 15ft be OK or is there a need for the longer one now and then?
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I see that the Rhino drain hose comes in 15ft and 20ft. Any opinions on the shorter or longer one? Would the 15ft be OK or is there a need for the longer one now and then?
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I say get the 20 foot one. You can always make it work if your only 15 foot away from the dump but if your 20 feet away the 15 foot will never work. If that makes since. Lol
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Hose are hoses are hoses - as long as they do the job, none of the frills or advertising matters much. You are simply allowing water to flow from your outlet to the sewer drain.

There are a LOT of items for the RVing world at every rv parts store or dealer, or even w*mt or your local hardware store, but most are not necessary. The hose is the main deal, everything else is just frills.

Length? it all depends on how close you are to the sewer outlet you are connecting to... the longer lengths give you more options, of course, but you can always move your rig to get closer even you don't... or you can choose to have two shorter 10' lengths, and connect the second if you ever need it.

Type? it really matters not the type, the brand, or anything else. The little that most folks travel and actually 'camp' during the year, any size/type/brand will do just fine. It's just a hose.


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https://www.amazon.com/Camco-RhinoFL.../dp/B01HPHR30U

This kit.

https://www.amazon.com/Valterra-T102.../dp/B000NCS7GE

Elbow.

https://www.amazon.com/Valterra-T58-.../dp/B000BGHYJS

Valve.
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You'll want a right angle fitting with a tapered end to somewhat seal to the campground sewer pipe.
Get a box of disposable rubber gloves to wear when handling the black tank hoses.
I don't bother hooking up the waste hose until I need to drain the tank. One more thing to trip over. Depending on the campsite layout, I may flush the waste hose well with clean water, remove it from the CG sewer, seal the end (was baggies and rubber band, now real end caps), & throw it under the TT. I've read bicycles wreak havoc on waste hoses. And if you trip over it, wet drops will go flying if it gets yanked from the CG sewer.
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Another option different from the stinky slinky style. Valterra has something called the Sewer Solution. It uses a 3/4" hose that is pretty much indestructible. You can buy either as a set or just parts. If you go with parts, you can pick up a 3/4" garden hose at your favorite big box store and make the hose as long as you want it.

The thing is a water jet macerator and will push waste up-hill to an elevation of about 3-4 feet. This also can be a good setup if you store your trailer at home - you should be able to figure out a way to dump at the house, especially if you are on a private septic system.

I use one at full hookup sites and am happy with it.
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We use the Rhino hose, has a cap for each end which is nice for storage. Also a clear 45 before the hose. A collapsible support is a good thing to have at a campground hook up, but never needed it at a dump station. As for length the 15 has worked even with the galley tank. The least number of connections the better in my opinion.
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I'm on the other side of a hose is just a hose.

I've used most every brand out there over the last 40+ years and some last longer than others. Some will tear open just trying to get fittings on them.

My current favorite is the RinoFLEX. The only issues I've experienced is that the factory left a little bit of the spring wire stick up in the INSIDE of the fitting and it would catch debris. A quick clip with side cutters solved that.

The swivel fittings keeps the hose from twisting and makes storage in a 4" bumper simple.

I've got various lengths. Just this past weekend I needed 38'.
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Rhino, two 15ft with clear sewer connector end. I have been to some parks with FHU that based on layout I had to use both (leveling etc). One military park actually had the setup reversed which required the extra length as well. Normally not needed but ensure you read up on the park ahead of time as in those rare cases they will tell you if extra length is needed. Have one ramp which I use for nearly all FHU hookups. We stay at mostly state/regional/county and some city parks where FHU may not be an option but for longer stays I try and find FHU's just for convenience. Happy Camping!!!!
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We use the Valterra EZ Flush Heavy-duty sewer hose, but I tend to agree that any brand of heavy duty hose will do the trick. Our main hose is about 8 years old, with no signs of wear, but we seldom were able to camp more than a few months per year....perhaps retirement will allow more time in the camper and require more frequent hose changes. We have a 20' section we use regularly, and two 10' sections we use as needed (so far only one additional section was needed - and only twice in recent years). We use EZ couplers and adapters, which allow the user to twist them onto the hose securely. With the exception of the EZ connector that holds the 90 degree adapter into the campground sewer hook-up, all of these fit nicely into the EZ hose carrier or a standard 4" bumper. We also use the accordion-like "Slunky" hose support (25' length), which I highly recommend for those who, like us, usually camp with full hook-ups. This little device beats the heck out of having to manually raise and lower the sewer hose for drainage. And we use a set of sewer hose weights to keep the sewer hose in place at the campground sewer hook-up. Since we have a separate galley grey water tank on the new camper, we are trying the Rhino 5/8" grey water hose to drain that tank. Valterra sells a pipe cover with a mail hose connector to which we can attach the Rhino hose. Our EZ-90 degree adapter even has a hook-up for that hose (but requires a hose with two female fittings, one for the cover and one for the adapter - we simply bought an adapter to address that requirement), although we keep that capped until we need to drain the grey water from that tank. So far, so good, but the book is still open on it....I will need to cut it and put on a new fitting, since the hose is 25' long and we'll almost never need that much hose. Like others, we also use a clear fitting that enables us to see when our drain efforts have been successful. Think that covers everything on your list, and then some. Good luck!
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My wife and I are new to RVing and I would like to get a good grasp on what you experienced RV people think is a good tough black water hose. How long should it be? I like the idea of the clear plastic fittings so you can see what's going on. I have seen a ramp type of hose holder advertised that you spread out and it tapers down and holds the drain hose. Is this worth having? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated since I have never done this before and I sure don't want to make any mistakes when it comes time to dump the tank.
Thanks,
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All of the above thoughts, ideas and suggestions are good. One I did not see however. Some campgrounds require that you use a rubber "donut" at the campground dump point. You can buy these for $4-$6 usually at any RV store or the WM if you must go into that place.
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I have 2 - 15’ and 1 - 10’ RhinoFLEX hoses and I use a straight clear view adapter at the tank dump. I have had an occasion to need all of them. I also have a RhinoFLEX swivel fitting to connect 2 hoses together when required.

If your trailer has a black tank flusher, you’ll want to have a separate, dedicated garden hose to connect to the flusher port with a check valve (aka backflow preventer). I have a good quality 50’ garden hose for that but I’m looking at using a 50’ Teknor Zero-G hose instead because its more compact.

Everything is stored in a large Rubbermaid bin with a locking lid and carried in the truck bed.
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We use the Rhino hoses with the clear elbow coming out of the shut off valve. Also, last year I got the plastic slinky to help guide the hose. It actually did help a lot, although there are a lot of times we didn't need it. We have a 20 and a 10 ft. hose. If you have a separate galley connection (we do) we will connect it to the other hoses with a Y connector, but, we use a regular garden hose to get to the Y. The nice thing about the Rhino hoses is that they sort of "snap" the spirals in the hose together so you can compress the hose length that you aren't needing and it stays out of the way. Many of the hoses just stay sprung open and you have hose all over. We have been hooking up over 40 years and, so far, like the Rhino style hoses the best, mainly because they compress so well (and stay in place). What is difficult about them is they sometimes are hard to connect together and you may need a bit of muscle to get them to lock/unlock. We use a Channel Lock oil filter wrench to lock them together when they are stubborn. Works great.
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I found the Rhinoflex to be a rather large and helpful improvement over the standard hose that came with my used 5er. There may be better brands, but I won't find them while happy with Rhino. You'll never miss the extra money you spend on Rhino. Skimping on cost in this area could lead to a crappy experience.
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If you want to use a clear plastic extension to observe and want to use the 4" bumper for storage you can buy a straight extension that fits in the bumper. The 45 degree ones will not fit in the bumper.
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