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01-06-2020, 08:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2019
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Does this look right to you?
2014 V-Lite that I bought last year.
The attached photo is from under the left bathroom sink.
In the photo, there is a slow leak at the yellow circle connection. The other end of the hose is at the red circle. I tightened the hose clamp slightly and the leak stopped but...
Why would this hose be what it is...a braided hose with a standard hose clamp (the only one like it in this area), instead of just a pex hose connected from the green circle (blue pex)? All this PCV in the middle? What purpose would it serve?
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01-06-2020, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Texas Coastal Bend
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The perils of buying used, that looks like a previous owner's handiwork. Do you still have the factory water filter? If not then this might have been an attempt to bypass it.
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01-06-2020, 08:43 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidBo
The perils of buying used, that looks like a previous owner's handiwork. Do you still have the factory water filter? If not then this might have been an attempt to bypass it.
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No factory water filter (that I know of) in this unit. Should there be one here?
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01-06-2020, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Dandridge,TN
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yes he bypass the water filter LOL
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01-06-2020, 08:45 PM
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Senior Member
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I'm the original owner of my coach, and it's built with a combination of hard pex, pex connectors, flex lines, plastic elbows, etc... sometimes it's not about keeping everything the 'same', but also using what's best for certain areas where turns and bends are needed, rather than hard 90degree corners... also some lines need connectors to mate with certain other non-related lines, or water pumps, etc.
Whether the lines have pex or clamps probably doesn't matter, as long as it works.
I just removed my own water pump today, as I saw a slight drip from one of the screws. There are 'store bought' flex lines connected to the water pump. There are similar flex lines going to and from my Anderson 4-way valve, and all these connect to hard pex lines with their own type of pex clamps and plastic connectors.
(you get the picture!)
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01-06-2020, 09:41 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timurray2000
No factory water filter (that I know of) in this unit. Should there be one here?
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Windjammers came with a factory-installed water filter. All Rockwoods do.
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01-06-2020, 10:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
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What are the two lines that feed the green circle? If it city water in and pump in, then the pvc between the green and red is very likely a custom replacement of a water filter.
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01-06-2020, 10:05 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip12
What are the two lines that feed the green circle? If it city water in and pump in, then the pvc between the green and red is very likely a custom replacement of a water filter.
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Yes that’s what they are. I’d like to see what it used to look like. I could put it back to the way it was.
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01-06-2020, 10:29 PM
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Location: Northern KY
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Yes that’s what they are. I’d like to see what it used to look like. I could put it back to the way it was.
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Many people, myself included have taken out the factory filter canister because of leak concerns. Seeing how a catastrophic failure under the sink could quickly become a wet-floor night mare in an out-of-the -way location.
Depending on your situation you can purchase at Walmart filters that screw on the end of your hose and throw away every year or whatever your schedule dictates.
Do a search on this forum for many custom solutions to adding a water filter with parts from big box store...
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01-06-2020, 11:12 PM
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Canadian Member
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Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
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A previous owner removed the factory-installed water filter housing. You should be able to find screw holes above those lines where the housing used to be mounted. When I removed mine I used a PVC union. Notice that the factory uses PEX crimp rings on the braided flexible hose connections. Sorry the pic turns on its side.
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01-07-2020, 07:24 AM
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Why? It looks fine, and if it doesn't leak, perfect!
The OEM inline filters are a constant source of frustration IMO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by timurray2000
Yes that’s what they are. I’d like to see what it used to look like. I could put it back to the way it was.
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01-07-2020, 07:32 AM
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If it were me, I wouldn't replace the onboard filter. I use the Camco inline filter and have considered a better external / inline set up that some folks on this forum have; however, since you asked, here's what the onboard filter probably looked like.
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01-07-2020, 07:47 AM
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Location: Oshawa, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfo111
yes he bypass the water filter LOL
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Yep.....sure looks like it.
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01-07-2020, 09:27 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsdata
Many people, myself included have taken out the factory filter canister because of leak concerns. Seeing how a catastrophic failure under the sink could quickly become a wet-floor night mare in an out-of-the -way location.
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Good point. Thanks.
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01-07-2020, 12:37 PM
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Canadian Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Eastern GTA, Ontario, Canada
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The Water Pur FR1 model had a lot of complaints about leaking or the canister falling off. I don't know if the newer generation is the same. The older style CCI model didn't have the leaking issue.
Often the factory installs the filter housing is a very awkward, hard to get to location. That's the only reason I've ever replaced mine. Its much easier to use a whole-house type filter housing outside where you can dump it when packing up and just put it away somewhere with the rest of your potable water stuff.
BTW, those Water Pur filters are pretty decent for performance and are better filters than the less expensive Camco blue torpedo style filters. Generally, you get what you pay for. If you're looking to use a water filter, I suggest doing some reading at the RVWaterFilterStore.com.
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01-07-2020, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Vibration
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Originally Posted by formerFR
I'm the original owner of my coach, and it's built with a combination of hard pex, pex connectors, flex lines, plastic elbows, etc... sometimes it's not about keeping everything the 'same', but also using what's best for certain areas where turns and bends are needed, rather than hard 90degree corners... also some lines need connectors to mate with certain other non-related lines, or water pumps, etc.
Whether the lines have pex or clamps probably doesn't matter, as long as it works.
I just removed my own water pump today, as I saw a slight drip from one of the screws. There are 'store bought' flex lines connected to the water pump. There are similar flex lines going to and from my Anderson 4-way valve, and all these connect to hard pex lines with their own type of pex clamps and plastic connectors.
(you get the picture!)
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The water pump vibrates. It is connected with flex lines. If it were connected with PEX or PVC, you would hear the drumming throughout the trailer.
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01-07-2020, 02:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,371
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V-Lite
That was where the factory water filter was. I have a 2016 V-Lite and that is where mine is. It is a pain to change the filter until you learn the tricks. On mine you need to be a midget to get to it. I cuss it every year. Many people delete it due to the potential leak. The factory PF-1 filter is a little expensive too, like $35.
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01-07-2020, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Wow wow wow
How do you know what feeds what?
Holy mackerel Andy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by formerFR
I'm the original owner of my coach, and it's built with a combination of hard pex, pex connectors, flex lines, plastic elbows, etc... sometimes it's not about keeping everything the 'same', but also using what's best for certain areas where turns and bends are needed, rather than hard 90degree corners... also some lines need connectors to mate with certain other non-related lines, or water pumps, etc.
Whether the lines have pex or clamps probably doesn't matter, as long as it works.
I just removed my own water pump today, as I saw a slight drip from one of the screws. There are 'store bought' flex lines connected to the water pump. There are similar flex lines going to and from my Anderson 4-way valve, and all these connect to hard pex lines with their own type of pex clamps and plastic connectors.
(you get the picture!)
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01-07-2020, 04:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Indiana
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The flex hoses allow the plumbing components some "flexibility " so that rigid pipe doesnt break upon repeated impact from travel. If all water lines were PVC rigid, eventually something would break. It also allows for service without needing specialty tools and hardware. Most RVs has similar set ups on low pressure water lines. As long as you can stop the leak by tightening a clamp, be diligent on routine maintenance and roll with it.
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01-07-2020, 07:12 PM
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MCTroy
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Troy.Ohio
Posts: 1,184
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V nose
The water filter issue has been answered. But hello and welcome to the V Nose team! There is a sub forum of V owners. I hope you enjoy your unit as much as we live our 2015 Windjammer.
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