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04-14-2019, 03:17 PM
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Help. Hot water and galley tank.
Loving my brand new 2019 salem 31kqbts but I am new to this and I'm so confused. Our camper is permanently parked and we used it this weekend. At first had hot water and then went to clean some dishes and no hot water. Don't have a control on our propane so we figured we were out. Looked at our manual and saw that also runs on electric( don't remember our walk thru guy telling us this) flipped switch took a hot very quick shower 2 minutes. Next shower cold. What are we doing wrong! Second what in the world is the gallery tank? Got fresh, black , and grey down pat, but the galley tank never changes. Help. Never owner a trailer before and trying to learn. Thanks for your feedback
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04-14-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Traveling fools
Loving my brand new 2019 salem 31kqbts but I am new to this and I'm so confused. Our camper is permanently parked and we used it this weekend. At first had hot water and then wentvtonclean some dishes and no hot water. Don't have a control on our propane so we figured we were out. Looked at our manual and saw that also runs on electric( don't remember our walk thru guy telling us this) flipped switch took a hot very quick shower 2 minutes. Next shower cold. What are we doing wrong! Second what in the world is the gallery tank? Got fresh, black , and grey down pat, but the gallery tank never changes. Help. Never owner a trailer before and trying to learn. Thanks for your feedback
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Re: hot water -- I suspect your water heater bypass valve is in the wrong position which allows cold water to mix with hot before getting to the shower.
The galley (not gallery) tank catches waste water from your kitchen sink.
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04-14-2019, 03:32 PM
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You probably have 2 gray tanks as I do. Gages don't always work. You should find 3 gate valves. 1 gray, 1 galley and 1 black. Galley is kitchen. You can keep the grays open when on sewer but keep the black closed except to dump.
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04-14-2019, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
Re: hot water -- I suspect your water heater bypass valve is in the wrong position which allows cold water to mix with hot before getting to the shower.
The galley (not gallery) tank catches waste water from your kitchen sink.
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Here is the water tank... if I'm correct we dont have a bypass valve..
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04-14-2019, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Traveling fools
Here is the water tank... if I'm correct we dont have a bypass valve..
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handles are on the bottom of the white TEE's.
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04-14-2019, 03:46 PM
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I suspect at least one of those two valves is a 3-way valve. Have you tried to turn either valve to keep water from flowing through the white hose (the bypass hose)?
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04-14-2019, 05:56 PM
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Wrong pix ...the lines indicate the hand direction...
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04-14-2019, 05:57 PM
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We're so confused..lol... I hope we didnt screw anything up or ruin the heater or elements...
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04-14-2019, 06:32 PM
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You should be fine. Just turn the handles to the appropriate orientation and carry on. As long as there is water in the tank you didn’t ruin anything.
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04-14-2019, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
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Wrong pix ...the lines indicate the hand direction...
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If your handles are facing the tank as you stated, then that is correct for normal use, as shown in this pic below.
This thread explains such:
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...st-103381.html
Let me think on your problem just a bit and reread your posts
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04-14-2019, 06:48 PM
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How did you turn the electric heating element on (what switch and where was it located?)
It appears you have a Suburban brand water heater from your pic. This thread may also help:
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ore-36197.html
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04-14-2019, 06:52 PM
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Next step is to be sure you outside shower valves are turned off. Not just off at the shower head. Same for the bath shower.
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04-14-2019, 06:54 PM
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If your two tank bypass valves are correct, then you may also have a problem at the outside shower wand (if equipped)
You have to make sure if/when you use the outside shower that you turn off the water with the handles and not just the shower wand. If not, then this can allow the cold water to be sucked into the hot water line when using the hot water faucets/showers INSIDE the RV
EDIT: Cavie types faster
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04-14-2019, 07:07 PM
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OK, just to make sure....your water heater won't be instant unless you have an on-demand type water heater which you do not.
It will take around 20 minutes to heat up six gallons of water on propane. If you are using the propane side of the water heater and turn off the switch, then it will not reignite when the water cools down. You have to leave either the propane or electric switches on, and then let the thermostats turn on\off the heating sources depending on the temperature of the water.
It will usually take even longer to heat up a tank full of water initially on the electric heating element. You have to heat the water up BEFORE you need it.
Also a RV water heater tank is smaller than one at home usually. You may need to take navy showers, which means you turn the water on, get wet, turn off the water with the handheld wand.......lather/soap/shampoo up, turn water back on with wand and rinse off. Then turn off the tap handles.
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04-14-2019, 07:19 PM
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it seems that FR uses generic control center plates. ours had a place for the 'galley' tank and i couldn't figure it out what that was. it turns out that it is for the washer tank. we have washer / dryer prep but do not have a washer / dryer installed. i spent an afternoon with a clear plastic elbow on the sewer connection. i then poured water down each drain one at a time and opened the two non-black valves to see which tank was getting the drain water. the results were that the 'gray' tank drained the kitchen sink, bathroom sink, and shower. the 'galley' tank was dedicated to the washer drain. it took some time but now i know where everything drains.
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04-14-2019, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmtire
OK, just to make sure....your water heater won't be instant unless you have an on-demand type water heater which you do not.
It will take around 20 minutes to heat up six gallons of water on propane. If you are using the propane side of the water heater and turn off the switch, then it will not reignite when the water cools down. You have to leave either the propane or electric switches on, and then let the thermostats turn on\off the heating sources depending on the temperature of the water.
It will usually take even longer to heat up a tank full of water initially on the electric heating element. You have to heat the water up BEFORE you need it.
Also a RV water heater tank is smaller than one at home usually. You may need to take navy showers, which means you turn the water on, get wet, turn off the water with the handheld wand.......lather/soap/shampoo up, turn water back on with wand and rinse off. Then turn off the tap handles.
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Thank you.... Next time we're there we will try what you have suggested..... Appreciate it
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