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04-01-2011, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Labzy
Matt, I'm assuming that the 2306 doesnt have that black tank flush option???
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No it does not - Let me just say it will be a PITA to drop the tanks
I did not drop the tanks when I installed the Tornado and wished I did for a cleaner install because when you hold a hole saw at an angle it makes a larger hole so with that being said - if you can get one of those angle drill heads that attach to the drill it will make the install alot smoother
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04-01-2011, 08:45 PM
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Omg......please tell me that just putting a hose that has a rotating spray head, down the toilet will do the trick........(fingers are crossed)
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04-01-2011, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Labzy
Omg......please tell me that just putting a hose that has a rotating spray head, down the toilet will do the trick........(fingers are crossed)
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there are many ways of cleaning the tank - most of it is choice - I chose to install the Tornado - others use the wand down the toilet which is effective but I didnt think it was practical for me due to the fact if you are at a dump station you will not want to drag a hose thru your camper to clean it out - or atleast I dont because if it is anything like pulling your boat out of the water at a ramp you will have impatient people waiting for you to hurry up and go - if that makes any sense.
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04-01-2011, 08:51 PM
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Well I thought it was considered rude to flush-out your tank when people are behind you in line.....
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04-01-2011, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Labzy
Well I thought it was considered rude to flush-out your tank when people are behind you in line.....
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I wouldnt know - I have only flushed my tanks out once and I did pull behind someone and he took his time - I also told him no rush and watched / talked to him so I had an idea of what others where doing to clean there tanks - he never went inside to clean the toilet with a wand - he had a clear elbow with a hose attachment and ran the hose on the clear elbow when draining out his tanks.
to me didnt seem effective but he had no issues with it.
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04-02-2011, 07:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Labzy
Omg......please tell me that just putting a hose that has a rotating spray head, down the toilet will do the trick........(fingers are crossed)
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That does the trick for me. I do that after about every 3 or 4 camping trips at home, so I don't hold up the line at the dump station. The small amount of water added to my tank is the charge for my next trip.
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04-02-2011, 04:51 PM
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Question......
I just saw an add for CLR (you know the calcium, lime, rust stuff) and they have a septic mix.
Does anyone use this for their tanks?
Its supposed to help breakdown organic waste.........so I wonder if I could put a little in the black tank to help prevent hard deposits?
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04-02-2011, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy
That does the trick for me. I do that after about every 3 or 4 camping trips at home, so I don't hold up the line at the dump station. The small amount of water added to my tank is the charge for my next trip.
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Good idea . . .
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04-02-2011, 05:38 PM
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Pinesol with some water works well also.
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04-02-2011, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Labzy
Question......
I just saw an add for CLR (you know the calcium, lime, rust stuff) and they have a septic mix.
Does anyone use this for their tanks?
Its supposed to help breakdown organic waste.........so I wonder if I could put a little in the black tank to help prevent hard deposits?
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Hopefully you don't keep the poop long enough for that to work. With two of us, we dump every 3 days, not long enough for a septic treatment to work. We use the http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...thod-8499.html . Works very well for us.
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04-02-2011, 07:44 PM
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I was told by our rep to put a bag of ice down the toilet and drive to the next dump station and it will clean out the wAlls of the black tank. The ice will turn to water and then you can dump it.
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04-02-2011, 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Labzy
Well I thought it was considered rude to flush-out your tank when people are behind you in line.....
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Then consider me rude!
I am not leaving the dump with an iffy-at-best clean out!
I wait in line like everybody else (when there is one) I don't rush anyone and I do not expect to be rushed either.
If the black tank is not full I will fill it up before heading to the dump then dump the black tank, turn on the water to the black flush and let it run. I will close the dump valve and let black tank fill up about half way again (while holding toilet flush valve open so I can see when tank is getting full) then let her rip again to a full drain then rinse hose with gray water tank.
Unhook, stow everything, wash hands and I am done in 15-20 mins.
I am a bit anal about it (no pun intended) but I like things done well.
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04-02-2011, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RhoZeta
Then consider me rude!
I will close the dump valve and let black tank fill up about half way again (while holding toilet flush valve open so as not build pressure in tank) then let her rip again to a full drain then rinse hose with gray water tank.
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If you can "build pressure in tank" then you have some serious problems with the venting system for your tanks!!!
John
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04-02-2011, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kalik282
If you can "build pressure in tank" then you have some serious problems with the venting system for your tanks!!!
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sorry, brain fart.
Fixed!
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04-03-2011, 01:57 AM
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Site Team - Lou
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John,
I think Rodger meant "get a good flow" rather than pressure. The more full your tank is when you dump; the more likely everything that needs to come out... will.
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06-27-2011, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by herk7769
John,
I think Rodger meant "get a good flow" rather than pressure. The more full your tank is when you dump; the more likely everything that needs to come out... will.
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So I have a 831 KRSS with the flush system but was told to never use that with the black water valve shut because it would build up pressure in the tanks. Is that inaccurate? Can I use that to fill the tank to for flushing? Right now I stand in the bathroom of the camper and gently press the foot pedal of the toilet to make the water run to fill the tank. This takes FOREVER. I would much rather just hook a hose of to the flush and let it run. Can I do that?
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06-27-2011, 10:13 AM
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Site Team - Lou
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Originally Posted by jim.ptak
So I have a 831 KRSS with the flush system but was told to never use that with the black water valve shut because it would build up pressure in the tanks. Is that inaccurate? Can I use that to fill the tank to for flushing? Right now I stand in the bathroom of the camper and gently press the foot pedal of the toilet to make the water run to fill the tank. This takes FOREVER. I would much rather just hook a hose of to the flush and let it run. Can I do that?
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Short answer is no.
The reason is that without a way to monitor the "fullness" of your tank you can quickly overfill your black tank before you know it. Since the toilet valve is closed water will go up the vent stack and overflow onto the roof and the weight of the column of water will allow no place for the water under pressure to go. The pressure in the tank will build until a weak point (seam; pipe connection; probe hole; valve) is found and escape the tank.
You would be better served making an "extension hose" for your shower hose; remove the shower head and attach the extension hose and open the flush valve. Use the extension hose to fill the tank through the toilet. (ONLY USE IT FOR THAT and never put it IN the toilet).
That way you will see and smell when the tank is mostly full.
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06-27-2011, 10:51 AM
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I dump bottle of cheap dish soap down into tank along with couple of gallons of water before hitting the road and then empty when get set up at site. Cleans tank and seals. A friend of mine dumps a small bag of water softener down their tank along with the water. After tank drains I dump another couple of gallons down to flush and then close black water and open gray water to flush hose. I leave gray open some during stay.
Hope this helps.
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06-27-2011, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by real redhead
I dump bottle of cheap dish soap down into tank along with couple of gallons of water before hitting the road and then empty when get set up at site. Cleans tank and seals. A friend of mine dumps a small bag of water softener down their tank along with the water. After tank drains I dump another couple of gallons down to flush and then close black water and open gray water to flush hose. I leave gray open some during stay.
Hope this helps.
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I use a capful of liquid laundry or dishwash soap and a capful of Calgon Water Softener as well. I still wait till the "full" light comes on before I dump though. If Turboflush water is available I will dump at 2/3 full but never less.
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