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Old 11-21-2016, 07:46 AM   #1
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Hunting all week snow came with wind lines and fresh tank frozen HELP

Hello everyone me and my family are out hunting in my new 2017 Avenger ATI 27DPS and we are facing the snow storm in Western New York yesterday with the wind the lines frozen and the fresh water tank seemed to begin to freeze. I'm sure with the over night temps and wind it's mostly frozen now at last check it was at 2/3 full of water now tank is reading empty but I assume that the sensor is froze. I have some heat tape wrapped on the line from the tank up to where the hot water tank input is but that is not working would I be able to pour hot water into fresh tank to loosen up? The lines are froze and plastic so you can't use heat on them. Am I screwed or is there a fix?
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:21 AM   #2
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I am lucky that my son bought a 5th wheel that was setup for winter camping in Vail Colorado. This lets me see what is needed to prevent freeze up. We used it this season hunting elk in the mountains, and it was warm the Trailed. The 2 big things his has, is complete skirting around the trailer. He also has a way the heater can warm the tanks and all underneath. We were able to put the Quad under the front which made it easy to start in the morning.
I have the joke of a Arctic package and will be opening the bottom vents to heat my tanks also. I am also looking at skirting to use on mine. Mine has the tanks in a covered bottom so doing this will be easy. Oh, one more thing his has a Mylar thermal insulation between the undercover and tanks. I will be adding that to mine also, that will take some work but it will be worth it.
While hunting his trailer ran the heater a lot less than mine did in 40 degree weather.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:30 AM   #3
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Hunting all week snow

Zdarlak, yeah, I think you're screwed.

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Old 11-22-2016, 03:23 AM   #4
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Take some tarps tape it to the sides down and run some heat under it. This will tell you if there is and cracks in the pipes.
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Old 11-22-2016, 02:26 PM   #5
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I went to tractor supply and bought 100ft contractor plastic and wrapped trailer to make a make shift skirt and put a cannon heater under that seemed to do track I have water back! Thanks
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Great Idea using the tarp and cannon heater..
Your pipes are probably Pex ..
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Old 11-22-2016, 02:51 PM   #7
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Gotta get it inside and get some heat to it fast. If you can't do that, maybe heating hot water and mixing as much salt to it as it will take and then putting it in yur fresh water tank? I've never tried it, but seems like it would work at least so you can drain that tank, assuming of course the tank and lines haven't already cracked and split.......
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Old 11-22-2016, 03:33 PM   #8
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All lines seem to be fine
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Old 11-22-2016, 04:01 PM   #9
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Hunting all week snow...

You lucked out!

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Old 11-22-2016, 05:51 PM   #10
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In Kansas, you don't even want to take a chance on freezing weather..LOL.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:28 PM   #11
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I went to tractor supply and bought 100ft contractor plastic and wrapped trailer to make a make shift skirt and put a cannon heater under that seemed to do track I have water back! Thanks
Just checking, is a "cannon heater" the same as a torpedo heater? I've used torpedoes but never heard of a cannon.
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Old 11-23-2016, 07:41 AM   #12
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Good job. With a little fore thought you can have that trailer set up for winter hunting.
I know there are people here living in them through out the winter in the high Rockies.
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Old 11-23-2016, 07:59 AM   #13
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Ya the make shift skirt is holding the heat in nicely from the camper it self. Definitely lucked out! And the floor is warm walking on that's a plus
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Ya the make shift skirt is holding the heat in nicely from the camper it self. Definitely lucked out! And the floor is warm walking on that's a plus
Good resourcefulness. Thanks for staying with us long enough to share the solution. Great to learn the problems and suggestions but better when we learn from you, what worked.
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Old 11-23-2016, 11:29 AM   #15
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You might want to invest in a few of these for next years hunting season:

18-1/4" x 12" Holding Tank Heater Pad for RVs Therma Heat RV Plumbing 277-000164

(Or just hang on to the plastic and the torpedo heater.)
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I'm not surprised that your piping was OK. Pex piping, under normal freezing conditions, shouldn't break. Tests done show that the expansion that occurs when water freezes (what makes ice cubes float) stretches pex piping to just below the deformation point.

Unfortunately, while the pipes shouldn't freeze, that doesn't include fittings and the possibility that freezing will expand the clamps that hold the pipes to the fittings.

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