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Old 11-28-2020, 02:40 PM   #1
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Kinked Fresh Water Hose, 18RJBBL

Hi, all, from a noob, both to the forum and to travel trailers.


I bought my 18RJBBL two months ago and all has been well so far, including four camping trips. I winterized yesterday without any complication, but as I accessed the basement plumbing I noticed that the fresh water hose from the tank to the pump was kinked (see pics). So far I've used only city water so I don't know how this will affect flow. But my hunch is that it will be considerably restricted, especially when suction from the pump is applied.



I bought the RV from an out of state dealer (I couldn't find this model in Virginia at the time), rolling the dice on warranty issues. I'm certainly not going to drive 180 miles just to have this fixed, and I'm open to attempting a DIY job. (With physical limitations: My inflexible, 63 year-old, 260 pound, 6'4" body with mild chronic back and knee issues makes it a challenge to work in confined spaces.)



So my questions: How do I best resolve this now, and how do I prevent it in the future? I'm guessing the best thing is to replace the hose, given that the kink has almost certainly been there for several months and has likely developed some degree of permanence. Can I do that from the basement by removing and later replacing the sealant goop (I assume that's its purpose) where the water lines pass through the flooring? Any pitfalls to be aware of with that? Or do I need access from beneath the trailer (I haven't looked there yet)?


Then for prevention, I figure a longer hose might be the simplest thing, allowing for a larger coil or coils for the hose as it makes its way to the pump. I thought about raising the pump a few inches off the floor via a piece or two of 2x4, allowing a wider turning radius for the hose. But I don't think I could get to the pump for this without removing the panel above it, requiring removal of several adjacent components (like the strut for the bunk bottom shown in pic #3). I'd rather avoid all that, especially given the above-mentioned physical constraints.


Thanks in advance!


Jim
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Old 11-28-2020, 02:46 PM   #2
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Would something like this work?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/HoldRite-2-...ort/1000382087
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You must not know that, if you're still under warranty, you can use a different dealer, an independent RV shop or a mobile RV tech. You just have to get pre-approval from FR and be willing to be reimbursed. You might not be able to get a closer dealer to do the warranty, since you didn't buy from them, especially during these busy times.
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My black tank flush hose was like that, they didn't allow enough hose to make the bend and it kinked. I caught in during PDI. They put a couple worm gear hose clamp on the kink, and it remains fine. So see if you can unbend kink, maybe squeeze it with pliers and put a couple of those clamps on for now.


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Old 11-28-2020, 04:33 PM   #5
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Hi, all, from a noob, both to the forum and to travel trailers.


I bought my 18RJBBL two months ago and all has been well so far, including four camping trips. I winterized yesterday without any complication, but as I accessed the basement plumbing I noticed that the fresh water hose from the tank to the pump was kinked (see pics). So far I've used only city water so I don't know how this will affect flow. But my hunch is that it will be considerably restricted, especially when suction from the pump is applied.



I bought the RV from an out of state dealer (I couldn't find this model in Virginia at the time), rolling the dice on warranty issues. I'm certainly not going to drive 180 miles just to have this fixed, and I'm open to attempting a DIY job. (With physical limitations: My inflexible, 63 year-old, 260 pound, 6'4" body with mild chronic back and knee issues makes it a challenge to work in confined spaces.)



So my questions: How do I best resolve this now, and how do I prevent it in the future? I'm guessing the best thing is to replace the hose, given that the kink has almost certainly been there for several months and has likely developed some degree of permanence. Can I do that from the basement by removing and later replacing the sealant goop (I assume that's its purpose) where the water lines pass through the flooring? Any pitfalls to be aware of with that? Or do I need access from beneath the trailer (I haven't looked there yet)?


Then for prevention, I figure a longer hose might be the simplest thing, allowing for a larger coil or coils for the hose as it makes its way to the pump. I thought about raising the pump a few inches off the floor via a piece or two of 2x4, allowing a wider turning radius for the hose. But I don't think I could get to the pump for this without removing the panel above it, requiring removal of several adjacent components (like the strut for the bunk bottom shown in pic #3). I'd rather avoid all that, especially given the above-mentioned physical constraints.


Thanks in advance!


Jim

I would just cut it and install a brass 90 . easy peasy and won't kink again
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My black tank flush hose was like that, they didn't allow enough hose to make the bend and it kinked. I caught in during PDI. They put a couple worm gear hose clamp on the kink, and it remains fine. So see if you can unbend kink, maybe squeeze it with pliers and put a couple of those clamps on for now.


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I haven't had this issue with an onboard hose (yet)... but when I have this issue with any water hose, I wrap a length (12" maybe) of left-over 12awg house wire (Romex) around the kink while holding the kink in a smooth bend. When I'm done, it looks like I've placed a spring around the kink. It's cheap; I'm cheap.
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I would just cut it and install a brass 90 . easy peasy and won't kink again
The 90 sounds easiest and fastest. Less time spent in a contorted position.
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I think that's fiber-reinforced vinyl hose, not PEX. If so, the Shark-bite won't work. An internal elbow with an Oetinger clamp would.
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Our E-Pro has a couple of these to prevent kinks.
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Old 11-29-2020, 02:50 PM   #11
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Use hair dryer and re form the hose or get some fittings and some more hose and loop it more
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I have successfully used a 90 degree nylon elbow with hose barb ends and a couple of hose clamps. Worked fine. Just cut the existing hose at the kink and put in the barbs and tighten the clamps. Elbows are at Home Depot, Lowe's, or Menard's. They should be around a couple dollars. Just get the elbow for the ID of your hose and hose clamps to fit. Quick fix and it will take the bend out of the hose. then you won't have to worry about taking the hose out of the foam sealer or disturb the clamps on the other end of the hose.
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I have successfully used a 90 degree nylon elbow with hose barb ends and a couple of hose clamps. Worked fine. Just cut the existing hose at the kink and put in the barbs and tighten the clamps. Elbows are at Home Depot, Lowe's, or Menard's. They should be around a couple dollars. Just get the elbow for the ID of your hose and hose clamps to fit. Quick fix and it will take the bend out of the hose. then you won't have to worry about taking the hose out of the foam sealer or disturb the clamps on the other end of the hose.
Great to hear you got it fixed, and thanks for your follow-up!
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Great to hear you got it fixed, and thanks for your follow-up!

Actually, this is not the OP. This member just posted what he had done back in the day.
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I have successfully used a 90 degree nylon elbow with hose barb ends and a couple of hose clamps. Worked fine. Just cut the existing hose at the kink and put in the barbs and tighten the clamps. Elbows are at Home Depot, Lowe's, or Menard's. They should be around a couple dollars. Just get the elbow for the ID of your hose and hose clamps to fit. Quick fix and it will take the bend out of the hose. then you won't have to worry about taking the hose out of the foam sealer or disturb the clamps on the other end of the hose.

I'm thinking this or some variant of it might be the best approach. Thanks!


And thanks to all who offered ideas. Regardless of what I do, it likely will not be until springtime. I want to run water through it and check for proper function and leaks before closing that compartment off again. Plenty of time to think on it and plan my approach.


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Another quality Forest River job.

Yeah, I'm a little underwhelmed with the workmanship on this thing.


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Less time spent in a contorted position.

Thanks for considering my need to avoid contortions!
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You must not know that, if you're still under warranty, you can use a different dealer, an independent RV shop or a mobile RV tech. You just have to get pre-approval from FR and be willing to be reimbursed. You might not be able to get a closer dealer to do the warranty, since you didn't buy from them, especially during these busy times.

Yes, I knew that, though thanks anyway. I suppose I could have mentioned originally that I would just as soon avoid dealers or even a mobile tech completely if I can make the repair easily and inexpensively. I'm not strongly mechanically inclined, but I'm adventurous enough to try a DIY job if I have the knowledge (or can gain it), physical ability, and tools, irrespective of the warranty.


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Actually, this is not the OP. This member just posted what he had done back in the day.
Thanks Mr. Dan Just thumbing to darn fast and then, well you know...over looked reading
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