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Old 01-03-2017, 12:42 PM   #1
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Reversing Drain Valve Handles?

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The fresh water drain on my TH is directly connected to the bottom of the tank (no plumbing other than a few inches of pipe coming down from the tank). The valve is inboard about an arms length, and the handle is facing "in". It's hard to reach at the very least, and even harder to get back out of there, and on two feet before getting wet when the valve is opened. Hot pavement makes it even better

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I'd like to remove the 4 bolts around the gate part of the valve, and reassemble the parts so that the handle is facing out - should I be able to do this without creating a leaking valve?

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Old 01-04-2017, 12:42 PM   #2
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A picture of the valve would help, but if it's a standard valve you should be able to rotate it around the axis and not cause a problem.

What size is the valve?
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:20 PM   #3
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Never heard of a "gate" type valve on a fresh water drain. Most freshwater drains are 1/2" or 3/4" valves without bolts, like the one I've added in the pic (the valve on the left; the one on the right is the gray water tank drain which IS a gate type valve with 4 bolts). Do you have a pic of the valve you're talking about?
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Confusing description but I'm guessing when the OP says "fresh water" they really mean grey water. If that's the case, rotating the handle to the outward position should not cause any leak problems, providing you can successfully disassemble the gate valve and reassemble without damaging, pinching or losing the o-ring seals. We don't know your level of do-it-yourself?
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Old 01-04-2017, 04:03 PM   #5
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Surely the OP doesn't mean gray water. Surely he wouldn't open a gray water valve and try to get out from under the trailer before he got wet. Wouldn't he use a sewer hose on gray water? A gray water valve is not normally an arm's length reach from the side of the trailer, is it?
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A gray water valve is not normally an arm's length reach from the side of the trailer, is it?
Some valves are located at a arms length under the trailer, like mine on my 2017 Rockwood 2506S TT. I need to figure out how to add an "extension" on the main pipe to get the valve closer.
As far as getting wet, I have been to dump sites that are dirt and mud puddles and it is hard avoid getting your knees wet when hooking up the sewer hose.
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Never heard of a "gate" type valve on a fresh water drain. Most freshwater drains are 1/2" or 3/4" valves without bolts, like the one I've added in the pic (the valve on the left; the one on the right is the gray water tank drain which IS a gate type valve with 4 bolts). Do you have a pic of the valve you're talking about?
Is that lumber I see under there?
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Is that lumber I see under there?
X2. Wow!!
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Is that lumber I see under there?
Yes, it is. Until I figured out what I really wanted to use; I already had the strap hanger.

How come nobody pointed out the cable tie?
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Too busy giggling at the hose clamp.
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Too busy giggling at the hose clamp.
Works good - lasts a long time!
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Never heard of a "gate" type valve on a fresh water drain. Most freshwater drains are 1/2" or 3/4" valves without bolts, like the one I've added in the pic (the valve on the left; the one on the right is the gray water tank drain which IS a gate type valve with 4 bolts). Do you have a pic of the valve you're talking about?
This isn't my photo (my TH is in off-site storage) but this is exactly the set up that I have. It's the 4 bolts that are around the outside that I want to remove, freeing the 'gate' so I can point the handle a different way...

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This isn't my photo (my TH is in off-site storage) but this is exactly the set up that I have. It's the 4 bolts that are around the outside that I want to remove, freeing the 'gate' so I can point the handle a different way...

Wow ! The TT manufacture did you no favors designing a drain system like that! Is it a Forest River ?
Is this your "Gray Water" drain point ?
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This isn't my photo (my TH is in off-site storage) but this is exactly the set up that I have. It's the 4 bolts that are around the outside that I want to remove, freeing the 'gate' so I can point the handle a different way...

That looks just about like what came on my TH, but mine is pointing out and easy to get to. The only thing I'd worry about is maybe damaging a gasket or o ring when rotating it.

Good luck, if it were me I'd give it a try.
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Oh, it would be nice to see one disassembled. Post a pic if do take it apart.
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Wow ! The TT manufacture did you no favors designing a drain system like that! Is it a Forest River ?
Is this your "Gray Water" drain point ?
Tell me about it

It's a FR Stealth 1913. This drains the 100 gallon fresh tank that sits just above the front axle on the trailer.

Grey and Black have standard "Y" arrangement on the side of the trailer.

I'll give rotating the handle a try this weekend or next.
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I've never seen a FW drain like that. Are you sure it's "stock?" Are you the only owner of this TT?
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I've never seen a FW drain like that. Are you sure it's "stock?" Are you the only owner of this TT?
100% sure - I bought it brand new from the dealer in 2013.
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Our 2016 Shockwave is the same only they mounted it up tight to the cover on the bottom of the trailer. You can't get your fingers around the handle but luckily you don't need to. You do have to just about knee to reach it. Biggest drain I've seen on a TT. We have 160 gallons of water so if you have it half full when you go to drain it you want to stand back as on dirt it will wash a hole in the ground.
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It's a 1 1/2" drain and it empties my 106 gallon tank in no time, the first time I opened mine I closed it before it washed away my gravel pad.

I throw a plastic tub under it now before draining, it warmed up a little today (18 degrees) so I went out to look at a few things in the TH.

My pink stuff is a little icy in the toilet.
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