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Old 08-08-2014, 02:26 PM   #1
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The last couple of times we camped when we flushed the toilet there would be air coming up before the water would go down and a sewer smell. Reading on here I realized I was not keeping enough water in there. So, we are camping this weekend and thought I'd dump a few gallons down the toilet. Well, I put about a gallon of water down and now the toilet is full and the water is not going down at all. I'm thinking vapor lock. The tank was empty when we started. I know its not full.
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Old 08-08-2014, 02:33 PM   #2
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Try using a plunger, sounds like you have solids stuck in the pipe between the toilet and the tank..


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Old 08-08-2014, 10:22 PM   #3
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Tried plunging tonight. Must really be stuck. Gonna have to snake it when I get home.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:14 AM   #4
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If you didn't keep enough water in the tank you might be victim of the dreaded 'poop pyramid'. That's where solids build up right below the toilet. You could try using a a hose and garden sprayer on 'jet' setting to help dislodge and break up the mound. Also check your roof vent for the black tank to be sure it didn't slide down too far into the tank, rare but it can and does happen. Good luck and hope you get the issue resolved.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:23 AM   #5
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Sewer issues

I checked my black tank vent by removing the vent cap on the roof and lowering a tape measure to the bottom of the black tank. I then pulled it up slowly until the lip on the tape caught the end of the vent line. Subtract the 2 and you have the amount sticking in the tank. I have a 5 inch high tank and the difference was 5 inches. If it sticks too far into the tank it will lock up because the air in the tank cannot escape and the toilet will not flush normally. The only way is for the air to escape through the toilet. May or May not be your problem but worth knowing. Good luck.

This is the reply I got from the Mfg.

Good morning John,

The only problem I see in what your doing is the starting amount of water. You need 3 - 5 gallons of starting water to properly start with, and only one Drop-In.

The more water to start the better results you will get. Water allows the urine, waste, and paper to stay below the surface of liquids in the tank therefore allowing the chemicals to properly treat them.

Try starting with more water and I think your problem will be solved.

If you have any additional questions please contact me directly and I will assist anyway I can.

Kindest regards,

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Old 08-12-2014, 05:37 PM   #6
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Thanks for the tip.
Is there another valve after the toilet and before the tank. I've plunged and snaked, nothing works to get the water to drain into the tank.
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:44 PM   #7
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do you have kids? Possible something that doesn't belong went down toilet
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:45 PM   #8
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My 8289 just evacuates very good. There is a 45 then a 90 I believe before it hits the tank. Never had any issues and we use standard bird or kitten or cotton type paper.
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:50 PM   #9
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Unfortunately it sounds like you have a clogged tank. You might try using a flush king to back flush and drain out the tank.

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Old 08-12-2014, 05:57 PM   #10
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We had odor issues during our last trip...first time. We'd been putting a couple of gallons of water in with the chemicals after doing the empty/flush. I went out and added more water after reading this thread.

But, after reading about fans, I wonder if the ceiling fan could have been drawing odor in. OR, if the A/C intake was close enough to the tank vent to cause it. We kept the ceiling fan on for the entire time, and with the heat in TX the A/Cs were running with their tongues hanging out.

A/Cs did a doggone good job...I sat in the recliner with a blanket wrapped around me, in July TX heat!

It was our first trip out since leaving it with warranty service for a month....I was stomping around accusing our service guys of saving steps back to the shop and using OUR bathroom while working on it.

We'll see! as we're headed NORTH come Saturday morning.

Edited to add: what was frustrating is that I KNOW Sneak does a thorough flush...dang...I can take a NAP during the time he spends at the dump station. And, the last trip before taking it in for warranty was at a full facility camp site....able to take all the time he wanted to...no one in line.
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Additional- Sewer smell can happen with the Fantastic fan on with the door closed while flushing, that I know happens.
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We knew from the git-go (courtesy of you fine folks here on the forum) to *never* have the fantastic fan on in the bathroom when flushing.

I do wonder though, if the ceiling fan on in the salon can draw enough air to cause the "odor wave". I'm hoping it's that simple, or if adding water to the empty clean tank will solve that issue.

Reminded me too, gotta pick up tank chems before our trip coming up.
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2 things you can do to help.

#1 Get some RV Digest-it and use the "Start up procedure" this should munch up the poo-goo for ya

#2 every now and then, just before you leave camp, dump a #20 bag of ice down the toilet with a shot of RV Digest It this will scrub your black tank clean!

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Old 08-15-2014, 07:33 PM   #14
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Just tried the RV Digest. Still the same problem.It seems the water just fills the pipe going into the tank. There is nothing blocking the pipe over time the water goes down. I wonder if the pipe going into the tank goes to the bottom of the tank, not allowing the water to empty into the tank. As a side note I put 32oz of RV Digest will about 5 gallons of water over time. Still just letting it work.
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Yikes!! 32oz of digestit? That is a LOT of bacteria LOL


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I use this after the tank is empty the dump it again seems to get stuff that doesn't come out by just opening the tank valve.
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Yikes!! 32oz of digestit? That is a LOT of bacteria LOL


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Old 08-15-2014, 08:24 PM   #18
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Another thought, some RV owners have found that when they cut out the hole for the fittings the plug falls in. This causes the tank to clog up. If it's a relatively new trailer and the problem is sudden maybe. Good luck


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jrlogan10, you need to talk to Keith. Ours did the same thing this weekend. Did you get it resolved?
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[QUOTE=kebren; Did you get it resolved? [/QUOTE]


I'd be interested in the outcome too.


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