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Old 10-16-2020, 01:54 PM   #1
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Suburban SW6DEL Switch Frozen

If this water heater is 2 years old I will eat my shorts, but that aint gonna fix baby.

It would seem that the gas part of this heater just isnt working and I cant turn the electric switch off at the unit because it is frozen in the on position (see below).

All the pictures Ive seen of shiny new units also seem to have some way to adjust the air draw with an adjustable flue vent, this just has a window.

I know better than to remove the unit for servicing while connected to water or electric / gas services so I can at least look at the guts and perhaps change that rocker switch.

Anybody else got any advice before I flush the gas line and get knee deep into something I cant handle?

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Old 10-16-2020, 02:02 PM   #2
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This is a pretty common problem. I had the same thing happen to me. Here is the thread I started about it. Hopefully it will give you some ideas:

https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ce-182725.html

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Old 10-16-2020, 02:25 PM   #3
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Hey sorry to bother you buy I click your thread and all it does is lead in a circle back to plumbing. New here so clearly I am doin somethin wrong.

Any idea?
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This is a pretty common problem. I had the same thing happen to me. Here is the thread I started about it. Hopefully it will give you some ideas:

https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ce-182725.html

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Old 10-16-2020, 02:33 PM   #4
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Hey sorry to bother you buy I click your thread and all it does is lead in a circle back to plumbing. New here so clearly I am doin somethin wrong.

Any idea?
The link takes you to an older, previously posted thread... did you read through it for ideas like was suggested?
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Try typing “Plumber in Need of Plumbing Assistance” in the search at the top of the page and see if you can find it there.

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Old 10-16-2020, 03:24 PM   #6
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Old 10-16-2020, 03:53 PM   #7
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Ok so here is the "funny part."

You cant get there from here so to speak. My Android 11 Pixel 3a wont load the page off the app.

My laptop will from Google.

Putting a doggie time out pen together for our Malimois so I only read a little bit, but boy! 3 pages of discussion pardon me if I rush to the conclusion of design flaw making me wish Radio Shack was still a thing?

Thanks for the assists.

I figure by the time the Spring comes I will be at the point of deciding what to pull her with.

Probably going to build out a 90 something Chevy van with an 8 cyl engine and a heavy duty transmission / torque converter... something I know about and can readily find junkyard parts for.

Well anyways, thanks for the assist.!
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Old 10-16-2020, 04:59 PM   #8
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You should have a circuit breaker in your power center. Use that to shut off the 120 v AC. Frozen switch is very common. I just used my breaker for 3 years once my switch stuck.
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:24 PM   #9
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I carry a spare switch: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Old 10-16-2020, 06:29 PM   #10
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I turned off my water heater breaker, used a small screwdriver to pry the switch out of its rectangular hole, removed the switch, jumped across the wires just to test, turned the breaker back on and the heater worked. Later I paid $5 + tax at a local RV service center and replaced the switch. I don't carry a spare switch but I do carry a little piece of jumper wire.
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Old 10-16-2020, 07:00 PM   #11
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Mine is also frozen. Fortunately it is in the ON position. It use the switch inside the fiver to turn the water heater on and off.
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Old 10-17-2020, 02:46 PM   #12
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I leave the switch and all the time. Between the circuit breaker and the water heater I installed a switch with the pilot light to turn it on and off from inside the trailer. It works great. A little bit of work but well worth the effort.
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Old 10-17-2020, 04:04 PM   #13
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You should have a circuit breaker in your power center. Use that to shut off the 120 v AC. Frozen switch is very common. I just used my breaker for 3 years once my switch stuck.
Most (maybe all) RV water heaters are not hard-wired. They use a standard three-prong 120 vac plug which plugs into a wall outlet. That's reachable from the same place you go to access the bypass valves.

If the switch is frozen in the "on" state, a temporary measure is to plug a computer outlet strip between the outlet and heater plug. Use the switch on the strip for control. Or, as you state, use the circuit breaker.
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Old 10-18-2020, 03:42 AM   #14
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Your WH will run on Gas, Electric or both at once.

If you are plugged in at a campground you can turn the gas off and use 100% electric on their dime. You can turn the gas on and you will get a faster recovery.

It is not necessary to turn the electric off to use the gas.

I don't see the problem.

Jump the switch only if it is stuck off, if it is stuck on leave it alone.
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