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Old 09-21-2020, 10:08 PM   #101
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And.... Drain the Water Heater. Unscrew the Magnesium Rod and set aside. Do not forger to turn the water heater valves off. Shall be NO ANTIFREEZE in the water heater., just drain.

It's recommended to change the Mag rod every three years. Teflon tape and food grade anti-seize should be used when screwing back.

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Old 09-21-2020, 10:11 PM   #102
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Well lots of different ways, opinions and advice. When I lived I took the antifreeze route for many, many years and though I felt it was safe I was always on city or campground water through a filter. In the end you'll be the one to decide based on a lot of good advice. Let us know what you decide. Thanks

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Old 09-21-2020, 10:25 PM   #103
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That is what I do.

I also add pink stuff to all drains to dilute or displace the water in them. I add some to the toilet bowl to protect the seals.
Exactly what I do too.
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safety

You can blow all the air you want through the lines but water stays in the pump and screen bowel. Pumping anti freeze through them is a good safe measure. You only have to change everything once to figure it out. We bought a unit that did not get complete treatment. New HW tank; new traps; new shower; lots of joints leaked. $1500 later and we put in antifreeze after blowing out the lines.
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Itís about the seals

This has already been beat to death. But many of us have been doing this for a number of years and owned a few rigs. The pink stuff lubricates the seals in all of the faucets, pumps and what ever. Plus you know if you see pink your covered.
From 2005 till 2019 my rigs have wintered well with the pink.
Now that we are in Az. If I stored our camper here over winter... I would add the pink.

Way fewer problems. Same for the stick and bricks when snow-birding. Just blowing out the lines can lead to seal issues come spring.
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That is what I do.

I also add pink stuff to all drains to dilute or displace the water in them. I add some to the toilet bowl to protect the seals.
X2.
Thatís Pretty much how I do it as well. But I remove the Ptraps and empty them.
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Glad this came up

My husband always wants to do the air process and I always push the pink stuff. I did not know why I took that position, (he says I always buy unnecessary insurance). Now I have good information, thank you for this conversation.
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This has already been beat to death. But many of us have been doing this for a number of years and owned a few rigs. The pink stuff lubricates the seals in all of the faucets, pumps and what ever. Plus you know if you see pink your covered.
From 2005 till 2019 my rigs have wintered well with the pink.
Now that we are in Az. If I stored our camper here over winter... I would add the pink.

Way fewer problems. Same for the stick and bricks when snow-birding. Just blowing out the lines can lead to seal issues come spring.

What about the Sea Lions?



I only have a seal in my toilet (they like the water), the rest of the system is Pex.
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My husband always wants to do the air process and I always push the pink stuff. I did not know why I took that position, (he says I always buy unnecessary insurance). Now I have good information, thank you for this conversation.
See how much is for the pink stuff and how much are parts and labor. When compared, is chump change
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If you like the taste of "tasteless" pink antifreeze use it.

All that's necessary is to eliminate anything that will freeze from the plumbing. Air will not freeze anywhere on earth at atmospheric pressure. If you're a belt and suspenders guy blow out all the water, refill with antifreeze, and finally blow that out so the system doesn't taste pink all next season. You can stop at step 1 of course but antifreeze is cheap.

A lifetime on the North Coast with campers and never left antifreeze in the system more than a few minutes.

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I use a tire pump that plugs in to the adapter.what I do I take a battery charger and I have adapter I hook to the charger red to red black to black then I plug the pump into the adapter and go from there.don't have to worry about oil or to much pressure
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I am curious why anyone would add hazardous or any deleterious chemical to their plumbing even if touted as safe.. I dont see where its necessary and just another overdone or unnecessary maintenance chore.Prior to winter why not just drain all your tanks, water heater, filters etc , and then blow air through each fixture one by one to eliminate any water residual in the pipes. Leave all fixtures open and drains open .. done and done.
It's not toxic or hazardous, and you cannot get all the water out of the lines. When you pump in antifreeze, a lot of water comes out the faucet even after blowing out the lines thoroughly. It sits in dips, bends, connections and faucet joints.

In some climates you can get by without antifreeze. Not around here (MN).
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You can blow all the air you want through the lines but water stays in the pump and screen bowel. Pumping anti freeze through them is a good safe measure. You only have to change everything once to figure it out. We bought a unit that did not get complete treatment. New HW tank; new traps; new shower; lots of joints leaked. $1500 later and we put in antifreeze after blowing out the lines.
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U.S.ArmyVeteran, thanks for your service. Antifreeze actually lowers the temperature at which the water will freeze...
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[QUOTE=TitanMike;2415493]Compressed air works. It just takes some time to do it right. Any water remaining can freeze and if in the wrong place, do damage.

Yes, it takes a little time.
Low areas can accumulate water after blowing the lines. I do blow out mine, however I do it once in my yard, then when I move it to storage area I blow it out again in case some water has gathered in a possible low spot from moving the TT. I have not ever had a frozen pipe. I leave the hot water heater plug out after draining and blow air through that as well. Replace plug of course. Blow each line separately several times both continually and then with bursts of air to help disperse any puddles which may have gathered. Don't miss any exterior lines like shower or kitchen pull outs etc. Yes RV antifreeze in drains is a must for me.
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Propylene glycol is the automotive antifreeze not the rv stuff.
Nope . polypropylene Glycol is the good rv antifreeze . used to make ice cream
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Well, if the panic is about Toxic stuff, consider this.... Vodka.
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