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03-22-2013, 04:20 PM
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Denver, CO
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12 volt outlets
So what's the deal?
My new 5er has 0.00 12 volt plugs anywhere in the unit. My old Lakota had one in the kitchen one in the entertainment center and one in the pass thru storage.
Guess I have another project in front of me, wire crawl, wire crawl, pull, swear, etc.
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03-22-2013, 04:57 PM
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Always Learning
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Interesting. My Sabre has 3 if I recall correctly- one in the basement storage area and 2 in the kitchen above the "charging station".
Not a helpful response, I know... sorry.
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03-22-2013, 05:09 PM
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My Surveyor has ZERO 12 volt plugs ...
Why do you need 12 volts ?
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03-22-2013, 05:17 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goomph
My Surveyor has ZERO 12 volt plugs ...
Why do you need 12 volts ?
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Cell phone chargers
Ipod chargers
Awning lights
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03-22-2013, 05:22 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
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Motor Homes are just as bad. Mine has (1). In the cabinet above the passenger seat mounted in the TV antenna amp. Virtually useless. I just stocked up on the AC chargers for the phones and tablets.
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03-22-2013, 05:23 PM
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Senior Member
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12v outlets very much needed especially when boondocking with kids at night.
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03-22-2013, 05:25 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RPAspey
12v outlets very much needed especially when boondocking with kids at night.
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03-22-2013, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
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For boondocking yes, I understand and agree. I have no 12 volt chargers, everything is 120V. That is why I asked, not to be a trouble maker
I ran an EXTERNAL 12 volt outlet so that I can use my tire inflator. That was my only complaint.
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03-22-2013, 06:42 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garbonz
So what's the deal?
My new 5er has 0.00 12 volt plugs anywhere in the unit. My old Lakota had one in the kitchen one in the entertainment center and one in the pass thru storage.
Guess I have another project in front of me, wire crawl, wire crawl, pull, swear, etc.
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Before you go to all of that trouble are you sure you don't have one in the cabinet by your television. It took me awhile to find mine, which was very hard to see. I had to open the door in the entertainment cabinet and it was above where I turn my antenna booster on/off, and beside where I could plug in auxiliary TV inputs. It blended in with the cabinet without a light.
A 275VRLS and my travel trailer have real similar floor plans which is why I suggested you look where I did.
See pic
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03-22-2013, 08:09 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goomph
For boondocking yes, I understand and agree.
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not just for boondocking, dry camping also. in California, less than 1% of our state park campsites have electric hookups.
so, dry camping is way of life out here.
my Roo 23SS has 0 12v outlets.
so i'm installing a 400w inverter for recharging things and running the tv and dvd on battery power.
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03-22-2013, 08:25 PM
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Mine last camper had 2, but my Flagstaff has none. I've just been using the lighter in my truck but I think I am going to add one in the camper this year.
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03-22-2013, 08:38 PM
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Quite the focus group here...I wonder if people on the mfg side of things read this. :-)
I dont even have the new camper yet and I'm putting together a plan for more 12v outlets (chargers..night light for kids..awning lights). It's coming with one but I want more. I dry camp 99% of the time and am going to have two 12v batteries wired in parallel. How am I going to access that power with only one 12v outlet that is hidden behind the tv?!
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03-22-2013, 08:48 PM
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Denver, CO
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Location: Denver, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmtire
Before you go to all of that trouble are you sure you don't have one in the cabinet by your television. It took me awhile to find mine, which was very hard to see. I had to open the door in the entertainment cabinet and it was above where I turn my antenna booster on/off, and beside where I could plug in auxiliary TV inputs. It blended in with the cabinet without a light.
A 275VRLS and my travel trailer have real similar floor plans which is why I suggested you look where I did.
See pic
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Nope it's not there, even tho the amplified antenna is there with 12 volts hooked to it.. I will try to put one there right next to the cable TV amplifier for my computer.
I also plan to put one by the kitchen and also close to the bedroom TV Which is a 12 volt unit I use when drydocked. The 12 volt TV's use less amperage than a 110 volt on an inverter. I have already put a 3 plug unit in the pass through storage.
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03-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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Denver, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
not just for boondocking, dry camping also. in California, less than 1% of our state park campsites have electric hookups.
so, dry camping is way of life out here.
my Roo 23SS has 0 12v outlets.
so i'm installing a 400w inverter for recharging things and running the tv and dvd on battery power.
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The inverters work but boy are they less efficient that a 12 appliance built to use 12 volt out of the box. It works tho if you have plenty of battery capacity.
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03-23-2013, 07:11 AM
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Site Team - Lou
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All aftermarket 12 volt outlets are not created equal. Some have very LOW amperage ratings. Make sure the one you choose is not an "accessory" outlet; but a "cigar lighter" rated one.
That will make sure the socket you choose has a high enough amperage rating for the appliance you will be plugging in.
Make SURE the wiring and fusing is also up to the task. The antenna amp fusing and wires are too small for much beyond 5 amps DC.
The max voltage supported is 8 amps DC on the OEM wall plate connector.
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03-23-2013, 08:02 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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I have only one,at the TV area, What size of inverter would be necessaryto run 32" TV? I will be adding 3 more batts. TH came with exide nautilus, eventually would like to get Trojan's,but do not have funds yet for that. Found the exide batts. at menards, I can get 3 of them less than one of the better ones. So exide it is for this yr.
(This yr. is boliy gen set)
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03-23-2013, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member
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Our V-Lite came with (1) in the Entertainment Center near the (Gameing) area,it also is used for the Air Pump Bed. I placed another (Cigar Outlet) in the Kit.beside the converter box,also another in the rear storage area to plug a small air compresser into. Now I had to place another one between the ConTone and the (New) XM station to (Plug in the power for XM) because the Fac.installed XM unit was (Solderd) at install, the new XM is (Plug & Play-Huh what a Joke)!! Youroo!!
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03-23-2013, 08:12 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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When you add 12v outlets,do you find existing, line and add too it? or run new, if new from where? direct from batt? or srvc panel?
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03-23-2013, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Waynesville
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Also the main 12V need was for Our (American Flag) lite. I have a SS flag pole mounted to the front Aframe so I just use the (7) way plug for (Nite Time) flag lite power. Youroo!!
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03-23-2013, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member
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Depends on the load,low load,scab on ext.wire,large load Conn.Box W/breaker,or home run W/fuse. Youroo!!
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