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03-13-2020, 08:53 PM
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2019 Cherokee - outlets don’t all work
Hey I know it’s sort of off topic, but I can’t figure out how in the world to start my own thread.
I have a 2019 Cherokee, microwave went off randomly and I thought it was the microwave. Pulled it out and it works in other plugs, but then I noticed my electric fireplace isn’t working either so it’s got to be related right? Does anyone else have a Cherokee and know where maybe a second gfci is located? Please help!!
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03-13-2020, 09:33 PM
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In a lot of RV's the Microwave and Fireplace are on the same circuit and they have a ALS (Auto Load Shed) device that shuts the fireplace off when you start the microwave. It's a small metal box, and it's usually located near the fireplace.
It could be a tripped breaker or it could be that the ALS has failed.
Have you checked the breakers?
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03-13-2020, 09:41 PM
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Welcome to the forum its a great place to get your questions answered. X2 what BR said
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03-23-2020, 07:31 PM
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Catalina legacy 243rbs 2019 with exact same problem. Replaced breaker, no change.
How does one check Al's thingy?
I am well versed in electric/electronics.
Thanks in advance!
-Charlie
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03-23-2020, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mad.dog
Catalina legacy 243rbs 2019 with exact same problem. Replaced breaker, no change.
How does one check Al's thingy?
I am well versed in electric/electronics.
Thanks in advance!
-Charlie
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The AL's thingy [ is an] "Automatic load shed" . Actually it's just a relay switch. The micro and fireplace are on the same circuit. It is wired in such a way that you can not run both at the same time. Some are wired automatic. some you must flip a switch hidden behind the fireplace. Why did you replace the breaker?
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03-24-2020, 12:39 PM
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The breaker keeps tripping. - Even with micro TV and fireplace all unplugged. 
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03-24-2020, 01:18 PM
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If you have all the appliances unplugged and the breaker trips, then you have something shorted after breaker. it could be wiring or it could be an appliance that's on the circuit that you don't know about yet.
What does the label on the breaker say it's for?
Have you turned off the water heater electric element to make sure it isn't the problem?
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03-24-2020, 04:44 PM
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Two adjacent connected wires inside this guy are sparking and throwing the breaker. When I disconnect the wires, the breaker is not thrown. Thanks in advance for any help. 
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03-24-2020, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mad.dog
Two adjacent connected wires inside this guy are sparking and throwing the breaker. When I disconnect the wires, the breaker is not thrown. Thanks in advance for any help. Attachment 225701 |
That is the ALS you heard talk of earlier. You need to use your electric skills to determine witch of the 2 loads it controls is tripping the breaker.
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03-24-2020, 05:17 PM
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Thanks for the quick response BR.
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Originally Posted by Bama Rambler
If you have all the appliances unplugged and the breaker trips, then you have something shorted after breaker. it could be wiring or it could be an appliance that's on the circuit that you don't know about yet.
What does the label on the breaker say it's for?
Have you turned off the water heater electric element to make sure it isn't the problem?
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03-24-2020, 05:20 PM
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Was assuming a bad ALS, hmm. So you think it's one of the loads? How can I test them?
(Thanks for the quick response!)
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Originally Posted by cavie
That is the ALS you heard talk of earlier. You need to use your electric skills to determine witch of the 2 loads it controls is tripping the breaker. |
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03-24-2020, 05:47 PM
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With a multi meter. I'm gonna step back from this thread before I get in further trouble.
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03-24-2020, 07:47 PM
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Good enough. Thanks for your help.
Where I was going with that is since it trips with nothing plugged in to either primary or secondary, I am unsure what testing you had in mind. I'll figure it out.
Many thanks for your comments.
-charlie
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Originally Posted by cavie
With a multi meter. I'm gonna step back from this thread before I get in further trouble.
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03-24-2020, 07:54 PM
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OP, MLee1992, did you get the answers you needed before the thread went elsewhere? Can you give some response?
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03-24-2020, 08:15 PM
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Apologies for hijacking the thread. I have since started a new one.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
OP, MLee1992, did you get the answers you needed before the thread went elsewhere? Can you give some response?
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03-25-2020, 06:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MLee1992
Hey I know it’s sort of off topic, but I can’t figure out how in the world to start my own thread.
I have a 2019 Cherokee, microwave went off randomly and I thought it was the microwave. Pulled it out and it works in other plugs, but then I noticed my electric fireplace isn’t working either so it’s got to be related right? Does anyone else have a Cherokee and know where maybe a second gfci is located? Please help!!
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Sorry, Your thread got hijacked a long time ago. Did you find the answer???? 
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03-25-2020, 07:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cavie
Sorry, Your thread got hijacked a long time ago. Did you find the answer???? |
See post 14.
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03-25-2020, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
See post 14.
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Yep, same as mine 
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