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Nice comparison chart. Thanks!
Same price as Amazon if you count shipping, and I can't tell what they have in-stock.
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02-24-2013, 12:11 PM
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Nice comparison chart. Thanks!
Same price as Amazon if you count shipping, and I can't tell what they have in-stock.
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I don't know if it's happening in all states, or just some like Arizona where Amazon has a distribution warehouse, but I now (starting this year) have to pay tax on Amazon purchases.
That makes the RV Upgrade unit $349.49 with shipping, and the Amazon unit $377.23 with tax. So for ME, the RV Upgrade order would be best.
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02-24-2013, 12:49 PM
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Arizona needs your money tho.
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02-24-2013, 01:31 PM
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Arizona needs your money tho.
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Yes, but near as much as I do! LOL LOL
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02-24-2013, 09:56 PM
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I have a question for those that have 50A service in your camper. How many 120V AC circuits are wired in the camper? Hopefully, the answer is more than 2 circuits.
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In our trailer (50 amp) electrical panel there is room for 12 circuits. Only 6 breakers are installed. 5 are dedicated breakers, microwave, wtr. heater, AC, converter, and fridge. It seems that only 1 circuit is left for counter plugs and all other AC outlets. I don't know if this is fact although looking at the elect. panel it appears that way!! It could be that the dedicated labelled circuits share a load with something else?? When it gets warmer I will do some investigation into the wiring. I want to run a dedicated circuit to the rear of the trailer for the entertainment system, TV, DVD, possible satellite receiver, etc. powered from a 1000 watt PSW inverter. 
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02-24-2013, 10:43 PM
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It's a shame that they wire it that way...the service is the same as most houses. You'd think they'd at least run two circuits for split plugs in the kitchen.
The way our camper is set-up with the 30A service is 2 circuits; 1 circuit for the kitchen and 1 circuit for the rest of the camper that also has the converter on it.
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02-24-2013, 11:03 PM
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You know 50 amp might be nice, but I venture to guess that we will only have 30 amps 95% of the time! And that 50 amp cord is an anaconda as someone here once said. And you're right they could have done a better wiring job.
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02-24-2013, 11:22 PM
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I made another power cord using 10/4 SO that is 30' long, and still weighs less than half of the stock cord. When I am not using two ACs it is more than adequate. And a heck of a lot easier to handle.
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02-25-2013, 12:26 AM
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My panel
Here is my panel FYI
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02-25-2013, 12:31 AM
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I don't know if it's happening in all states, or just some like Arizona where Amazon has a distribution warehouse, but I now (starting this year) have to pay tax on Amazon purchases.
That makes the RV Upgrade unit $349.49 with shipping, and the Amazon unit $377.23 with tax. So for ME, the RV Upgrade order would be best.
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Makati is 318.47$
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02-25-2013, 01:08 AM
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Makati is 318.47$
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I googled Makati, and Makati RV, and could not come up with anything.
Do you have a link please?
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02-25-2013, 05:20 PM
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I made another power cord using 10/4 SO that is 30' long, and still weighs less than half of the stock cord. When I am not using two ACs it is more than adequate. And a heck of a lot easier to handle.
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Are you saying that the power cord you made has a 50 amp plug but the cable is only rated for 30 amps. Isn't that a little unsafe? Just asking? 
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02-25-2013, 06:30 PM
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Makarios rv is what I meant spellcheck.
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02-25-2013, 06:32 PM
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Are you saying that the power cord you made has a 50 amp plug but the cable is only rated for 30 amps. Isn't that a little unsafe? Just asking? |
Not unsafe at all. Consider the fact that I have effectively two 30A Power cords. I have been using this type arrangement for several years. The cable does not even get warm, AND I do not use that cable if I am going to run both ACs.
With the internal distribution set up correctly (can be done by changing circuits around) I wind up with the main AC on one leg, and the water heater, fridge, and microwave on the other leg. Neither of which even approaches 30A. If balanced correctly, the Neutral carries very little current.
I've also checked the voltage drop across the cable, and it is minimal.
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02-25-2013, 06:37 PM
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Thanks for the link. Definitely the best price I've seen, and reasonable shipping to boot.
In fact, just ordered one.
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02-25-2013, 06:52 PM
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They seem to be pretty squared away and prompt in my limited experience.
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02-25-2013, 07:45 PM
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Not unsafe at all. Consider the fact that I have effectively two 30A Power cords. I have been using this type arrangement for several years. The cable does not even get warm, AND I do not use that cable if I am going to run both ACs.
With the internal distribution set up correctly (can be done by changing circuits around) I wind up with the main AC on one leg, and the water heater, fridge, and microwave on the other leg. Neither of which even approaches 30A. If balanced correctly, the Neutral carries very little current.
I've also checked the voltage drop across the cable, and it is minimal.
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Well I guess that works for you and that's good. Maybe it's the way we camp but if I have a 50 amp pedestal I will use the 50 amp cord. When we are at a 30 amp service pedestal (most of the time) I use a 30 amp cable and an adaptor at the trailer (30 to 50) to connect.
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02-28-2013, 10:33 AM
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What I'm trying to determine is the number of 120V circuits for the duplex plugs for coffee maker, heaters, etc. Our camper with 30A service has 2 such circuits...I was wondering if a camper with 50A service (100A @ 120V) has more than 2.
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Dave,
my 50-amp RV has 11 breakers, one of which covers 8 outlets (non-GFCI), and another of which drives all 5 GFCI outlets. Both of those breakers are 15 amp. The other 9 breakers are dedicated.
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Dave,
my 50-amp RV has 11 breakers, one of which covers 8 outlets (non-GFCI), and another of which drives all 5 GFCI outlets. Both of those breakers are 15 amp. The other 9 breakers are dedicated.
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What I understand is that you still wouldn't be able to use both a electric fry pan and a toaster at the same time even with 50A service (100A @120V) as both receptacles are on the same circuit. That's disappointing!
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