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03-24-2013, 09:41 AM
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6 volt or 12 volt batteries
Looking at an up grade to my 2 battery set-up in our new 5er. I can get a trojan t-105, 225 ah deep cycle 6v 67lbs. ( group GC24 ) for around $152. or $304. for 2. The trojan 225 SCS 130ah deep cycle 12v, 87lbs at around $199. or $400 for the pair. Am I thinking too much on this, looks like the 2, 6v at 450ah would be the best over the 2, 12v at 230ah for $400. 2 6v at 134lbs as to 2 12v at 174lbs. So with the furnace, LPG detector, and Refrig,( around 11amp draw ) I should be able to go several days between charging.
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03-24-2013, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by f150k
Looking at an up grade to my 2 battery set-up in our new 5er. I can get a trojan t-105, 225 ah deep cycle 6v 67lbs. ( group GC24 ) for around $152. or $304. for 2. The trojan 225 SCS 130ah deep cycle 12v, 87lbs at around $199. or $400 for the pair. Am I thinking too much on this, looks like the 2, 6v at 450ah would be the best over the 2, 12v at 230ah for $400. 2 6v at 134lbs as to 2 12v at 174lbs. So with the furnace, LPG detector, and Refrig,( around 11amp draw ) I should be able to go several days between charging.
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6V batteries in series combine voltage (thus 2x6V=12V), but not amperage - you'd still have only 225ah. 12V batteries in parallel combine amperage (thus 2x130=260ah) but not voltage - you'd still have 12V. However, with the 6V in series, you'd have greater longevity than with the 12's. The ideal solution would be two banks of 6V batteries - each bank with two 6V in series, then the two banks connected in parallel. If you have room for them!
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03-24-2013, 09:59 AM
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I went through the same dilemma as you awhile back. Read all the posts 6V vs. 12V and decide for my needs that 12V was best. This is why. I have owned lots of trolling motor batteries that are connected in series. I have had one battery go out more than once. I figured if I had one 12V working on trailer I could still operate. If I dropped one 6V the other one would not power anything. Very little in discussions were mentioned about this. I figured that 1/2 of a 12V system was better for me that 1/2 a 2 x 6V system. Just something more to think about. I am sure I did not help.
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03-24-2013, 10:13 AM
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Yes, you have a good point and also if I want to use trimetric ( Tm2025RV ) monitor they only work on 12volt.
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03-24-2013, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by f150k
Yes, you have a good point and also if I want to use trimetric ( Tm2025RV ) monitor they only work on 12volt.
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The trimetric works on the combined 2 six volt as well as the 12 X 2, no difference. I am not sure what the point is, as you will have either set combined and they will fail together. If you separate the 2 12 volts with a switch then you will have reduced capacity due to peukert's law.
Bottom line is either will work fine if they are Trojans.. More important is get a good charger and monitor, keep the electrolyte topped up and use the ones that fit best and you can afford.
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03-24-2013, 10:53 AM
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Yes, you have a good point and also if I want to use trimetric ( Tm2025RV ) monitor they only work on 12volt.
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I am of the same thinking regarding using two 6V batteries. If you have only two batteries and loose one, you are dead in the water.
Using two banks of 6V batteries adds a lot of weight, and if you have a lite series RV you really eat into your CCC. In larger RVs this is not normally an issue.
Regarding the TM-2025RV, you would use it to monitor the combined series voltage of the two 6V batteries, so it can be used with the 6V setup.
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03-24-2013, 11:01 AM
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Trojan does make a good heavy duty deep cycle B+. When our first B+ fails we'll go with 2-6-V's hooked in series. More capacity and good but not to expensive B+'s that will last 4-8 years or longer. The one's in our MH that we sold were 8 years old and still going strong. You'll find opinions both ways so research and do what you're comfortable with. If you are concerned with one B+ failing and you only having 1-6-V B+ left I wouldn't worry. If both B+'s are purchased at the same time and placed on the same converter/charger they will both be discharged/charged the same and will most likely last about the same length. If you do get a defective B+ you will most likely find it in a relatively short period of time. If that did happen I would ask to replace both because you are connecting them in series and you do want B+'s that are of the approximate same age.
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03-24-2013, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RodeoGeorge
I am of the same thinking regarding using two 6V batteries. If you have only two batteries and loose one, you are dead in the water.
Using two banks of 6V batteries adds a lot of weight, and if you have a lite series RV you really eat into your CCC. In larger RVs this is not normally an issue.
Regarding the TM-2025RV, you would use it to monitor the combined series voltage of the two 6V batteries, so it can be used with the 6V setup.
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Are we losing the batteries as in stolen , or them going bad? Never seen one 6 volt in a pair going bad by itself. Maybe that happens but I doubt it, at least with decent care. If it does then that would argue for the 12's.
I do wonder if the larger individual cells in the 6 volter's would be of some advantage. Maybe a call to Trojan would be an idea?
Using the 2 12's or the 2 6's are the same weight wise given the difference in amp-hours.
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03-26-2013, 11:43 AM
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You should be able to get better battery pricing than that. Try the golf cart dealers as the one I called yesterday in SC sold 105s for $99ea with exchange.
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