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07-22-2015, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by marcusfan
So if I wanted a hard wired surge protector but don't feel competent to wire it myself, is that something that I would have an electrician do, or a dealer or a mobile RV guy or who? Thanks guys.
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It is a easy job, an electrician should be able to do it in an hour.
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07-22-2015, 07:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marcusfan
So if I wanted a hard wired surge protector but don't feel competent to wire it myself, is that something that I would have an electrician do, or a dealer or a mobile RV guy or who? Thanks guys.
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An electrician could do it no problem. I don't see any advantage to it over a portable unit though. Plug the protector in, plug your trailer into it and you are done. Both do the same thing.
Actually I think you could leave your trailer plugged into the surge and just have to plug it into shore power when you are ready.
Jim
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07-22-2015, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtool2
An electrician could do it no problem. I don't see any advantage to it over a portable unit though. Plug the protector in, plug your trailer into it and you are done. Both do the same thing.
Actually I think you could leave your trailer plugged into the surge and just have to plug it into shore power when you are ready.
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Theft protection is probably the biggest advantage over a portable unit.
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07-22-2015, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TURBS
Yep
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Pm me there number I'll fill them in !
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My wife never questions what I buy. She knows the trailer is "my baby". She knows how tight/broke I am...chances are if I bought one I thought about it for a bit before I ordered it.
PS: I will send you the number
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07-22-2015, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by olbob52
You never know. What if you have a power problem at home. Say low voltage or a spike. Could save you some $$$. I know we have problems here if the wind blows too hard or a squirrel pees on a transformer. Just saying.
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I was being sarcastic..of course. I was only saying I never get to go. Full time and part time job, 4 kids, 1 perfect grandson and remodeling my fathers house. Dang I am depressing myself....and no money.
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07-22-2015, 12:16 PM
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Camping world has on sale the hard-wired 30 amp progressive industries unit with remote indicator for 219 US. in Canada on Amazon the same unit is $419.
I cant figure that our dollar on a 220$ unit is an additional 200$ in exchange.
someone is ripping us off.
30-amp Surge Protector with Voltage Protection - Progressive EMS-HW30C - Surge Protectors - Camping World
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07-22-2015, 12:34 PM
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Wait till next year...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtool2
An electrician could do it no problem. I don't see any advantage to it over a portable unit though. Plug the protector in, plug your trailer into it and you are done. Both do the same thing.
Actually I think you could leave your trailer plugged into the surge and just have to plug it into shore power when you are ready.
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Iwould say advantages are protected from theft and the elements plus the remote read out is inside so you dont have to go out to read errors or voltage
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07-22-2015, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwritecode
Theft protection is probably the biggest advantage over a portable unit.
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Chances are real good that I can get in your outside opening storage compartments. This is where most add ones would be located. Mine came with a metal ring to put a cable and lock on so I can lock it to the power post. Probably about just as secure as an installed one.
The portable one is weather proof, has to be to give us a Lifetime warranty.
Jim
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07-22-2015, 02:18 PM
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Wait till next year...
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In my sunseeker the hard wired unit is under my bed, some of the hard wired installs I've seen for trailers are inside a cabinet base. And the remote display can be put anywhere inside. Either portable or hard wired having the protection is the important point
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07-22-2015, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oldtool2
Chances are real good that I can get in your outside opening storage compartments. This is where most add ones would be located. Mine came with a metal ring to put a cable and lock on so I can lock it to the power post. Probably about just as secure as an installed one.
The portable one is weather proof, has to be to give us a Lifetime warranty.
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Jim, I saw TURBS installation in his unit last year and I suspect most RVs would be similar: It installs near the main power panel inside the rig.
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07-22-2015, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HSVBamaBob
Jim, I saw TURBS installation in his unit last year and I suspect most RVs would be similar: It installs near the main power panel inside the rig.
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Correct, I removed distribution panel "5 minutes" and installed right behind it on the floor.
1 hr install.
It's basically under my sink non accessible to anyone.
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07-22-2015, 03:19 PM
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I did my install today on my hardwired unit. Took me longer to figure out where I wanted to put it then it did to hook it up. The 2301 is a rear queen bed. The transfer switch is under the bed so that seemed to be the logical place to put the EMS. I was going to put the EMS after the transfer switch but decided to install it before it. I don't use the generator all that much and when I do it's only to run the A/C. We don't do any boondocking so I'm more concerned about campground electrical service problems. The generator is an onboard Onan/Cummins unit so I'm counting on it running without frying all the electronics in the coach.
Forest River left plenty of extra cable under the bed so all I had to do was cut it, strip it and attach it to the EMS. I installed the EMS where the transfer switch was originally mounted and moved the transfer switch a little forward. I mounted the readout on the front of the bed under the electrical panel. That way I won't be looking at blinking lights all night but it's easy to see from anywhere forward of the bed.
Before I buttoned everything up I plugged into shore power and made sure the system was working correctly.
While I had the bottom of the bed opened up I also fixed the uphill water tank fill problem that a lot of people were complaining about. The fill tube ran slightly uphill at one point so I pushed it down to where it's all downhill from the fill opening to the tank and zip tied it into place.
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07-22-2015, 03:21 PM
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Looks good
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07-22-2015, 03:25 PM
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Mine.
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07-22-2015, 03:31 PM
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Wait till next year...
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I like the plugs to bypass it if needed? Will have to redo mine when I get a chance
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07-22-2015, 03:33 PM
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Nice job Captain Skip!
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07-22-2015, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n-e-d
I like the plugs to bypass it if needed? Will have to redo mine when I get a chance
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X2 I made a mental note about that last year. When the time comes to install our hardwired unit I will do the same!
Smart engineering Ron - in the unlikely event your EMS goes south, it's a simple process to get you rig powered up again!
IF you DARE to plug into a power outlet without your Progressive EMS!
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07-23-2015, 06:29 AM
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Seems there are plenty of secure locations to install one. As long as you have room behind your panel that would be a logical and secure location, I didn't need any more work right now so went with the simple way. I can lock it to the post so don't see it taking a walk.
Now back to installing my new alarm system, spare battery, inverter and led lighting. Got to work while the heat and humidy is down for the next few days.
Jim
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07-23-2015, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwritecode
Theft protection is probably the biggest advantage over a portable unit.
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here's what I did with my "portable" unit. kind of a variation on turbs installation. I turned my "portable" into a "permanent" by cutting the supply wire and installing male and female plug/receptacle. this eliminates having the unit plugged into the power pedestal (and possible theft). if there is a problem with the unit I can unplug it and reconnect my power without it in line. I can also take it out and "test" sites if I want to. Also if change trailers I can take it with me.
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07-23-2015, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craigster_mi
here's what I did with my "portable" unit. kind of a variation on turbs installation. I turned my "portable" into a "permanent" by cutting the supply wire and installing male and female plug/receptacle. this eliminates having the unit plugged into the power pedestal (and possible theft). if there is a problem with the unit I can unplug it and reconnect my power without it in line. I can also take it out and "test" sites if I want to. Also if change trailers I can take it with me.
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Great idea!
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