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04-03-2014, 12:27 PM
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I have a 30 Amp PI for our current trailer but will soon be trading this trailer in on a trailer that is 50 Amp. I plan to buy the 50 Amp model PI.
Question is this -- if I'm at a park with only 30 Amp service, is it better to run a 30 Amp to 50 Amp adapter from the pedestal to the 50 Amp PI, or should I plug the 30 Amp PI into the pedestal and run the 30 to 50 adapter from the 30 Amp PI to the trailer? Does it make a difference? Trying to decide if I keep or sell the 30 Amp PI.
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04-03-2014, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Texas
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When I had our Cougar prior to our new RV I always used an adapter and plugged into the 50 amp plug. The 30 amp plugs are used more and sometimes I would pop the breaker the at the pedestal using the 30a plug. Never popped a breaker in the RV or using the 50A plug w/adapter. Our new RV is 50A service.
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04-03-2014, 02:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Greensboro, NC
Posts: 775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiscampsin
Completely agree. I just wish manufacturers would buy them in bulk from PI and factory install them and be done with it. Of course that would mean another manual buyers would never read .
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It's unmanly to read a manual!
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04-03-2014, 02:41 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
Posts: 34,507
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylorgso
It's unmanly to read a manual!
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All that is, is another man's opinion!
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04-03-2014, 02:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: S/E Wisconsin
Posts: 492
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiscampsin
Being out of the elements. Call me paranoid but I went with the portable because if anything does blow I want it as far away from our camper as possible.
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Did you do anything special to keep someone from walking off with it when you are not around?
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04-03-2014, 03:05 PM
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Mod free 5er
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 24,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MMattox
They are not going to offer the EMS, they make too much money off replacement parts and labor when you fry the electronics.....
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FR, ever the bad guy, huh?
They offer what the public wants. IMO
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04-03-2014, 04:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,058
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Anyone consider a group purchase with members of this site? We have done it numerous times on Hummer forums.
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04-04-2014, 07:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Texas
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This is what "MODS" are all about, doing what we want, to the rig we bought, at the price we agreed on. And on to the add ons
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04-11-2014, 10:34 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 49
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What is the cost of installing a onboard system?
Seems like a good upgrade to save the unit from damage. I'm also not in need of another thing to worry about being stolen or to plug in...lol
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04-11-2014, 11:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,428
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They're under $300 for a 50A onboard system, I'd estimate a couple of hours labor to install the unit and the remote monitor, an hour labor without the monitor. So $375-450ish installed. Though it looks really easy to install, I'm hoping to install one shortly.
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04-11-2014, 11:52 PM
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Berkshire 390QS
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,489
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We installed ours, couple hour job at most, Progressive Industries 50Amp with remote. Think is was around $450. Hard wired it right in the electrical bay.
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04-12-2014, 12:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Pfafftown NC
Posts: 2,353
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Just pulled the trigger and ordered a EMS-HW30C (That's the hardwired version) . $ 235 plus 13.29 shipping. Too many things can go wrong camping. At least this will help rule out one area of disaster.
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04-12-2014, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cochrane, AB
Posts: 829
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Electrical Management System is worth the money..
I just purchased the PI hard wired 50 amp with remote display. It cost me U$313 which included shipping to a colleague of mine at a conference in Las Vegas. He then brought it back to Canada for me. Since then, I bought a meter of #6/3 cable and spent some time one evening connecting the cable to the output side of the PI EMS. Now (I hope) all I have to do when I pick up the new 5er on Wednesday, is cut the cable leading to the control panel, connect it to the EMS load side and the end of the cable I have already connected to the output side can be hooked up to the control panel.
The only problem I had was that 6/3 cable isn't very flexible and there isn't much space to feed in the three wires to the screw down connectors especially when two of then have to slide through those doughnut shaped sensors. It did take some manipulation and I did manage to get them hooked up but I guess that part took me nearly an hour. The ground part of the cable was easy enough and being solid copper just looped around the small nut threaded through the side of the unit.
I'm hoping the rest of the install won't take me that long but it will be what it will be.
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07-12-2014, 01:06 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 48
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Hello all. Gotta say this site is awesome. Never thought of power protection like this. If I picked up and used the EMS-PT50C, will there be any issues if I hooked my 50amp cord to the trailer, EMS-PT50C next. Then hooked into whatever power source after that with adapters, ie: 50amp, 30amp or even 110. Will the EMS-PT50C be ok in all of those circumstances or do you have to run a different power protection set up for all different power supplies. Thanks.
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07-12-2014, 01:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Idaho
Posts: 9,839
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I plug mine in first after getting in the site and let it run thru the test cycle before I get to settled incase there is a problem that needs to be dealt with or I need to move.
If I get a green light I then plug the trailer in and go about with the rest of the hookups.
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07-12-2014, 03:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cochrane, AB
Posts: 829
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If you have the 50 amp it will also protect if you plug in to a lower amperage source via an adaptor.
Richard & Diane
2014 Cedar Creek 38FL
With a F350 dually
2014 26 nights and 3120km
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07-12-2014, 04:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Whereever our Berkshire is Parked!
Posts: 7,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hutch333id
If you have the 50 amp it will also protect if you plug in to a lower amperage source via an adaptor.
Richard & Diane
2014 Cedar Creek 38FL
With a F350 dually
2014 26 nights and 3120km
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Yes (and I called progressive to confirm this because I needed to test a site we were using that had mixed 50/30/110 - it will do them all!
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07-12-2014, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 1,658
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Here is an advantage of a portable unit: if you plug in to the post and it's bad, you can walk to another site and plug in to check that post. I use a circuit tester as soon as I back into a site. If it checks good, I'll proceed to setting up and plug in the PI before I get too far into setting up in case something shows problems.
The disadvantage is that it could grow legs and walk off. I try to wrap a bicycle cable around the post in a way it can't be slipped off. MOST people in a campground are honest, the cable lock is for those that aren't.
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07-12-2014, 04:40 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 48
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Much appreciated. Thanks for the info, the 50 amp is ordered and on its way.
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