Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-22-2016, 06:45 AM   #61
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: New Lenox, Ill. (Home of Proud Americans)
Posts: 298
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecurityRich View Post
I currently have a Honda EU2000I that I converted to run on Propane. I just plug in the quick connect gas on the TT and off it goes. I don't have to worry about carrying gasoline or spilling it. It is also cleaner burning and the Generator will/should last literally forever. Because I can't run my air conditioner on 1600 watts, I need to purchase a 2nd EU2000I, convert it to propane and use the companion cable to get the power I need. If it isn't too hot I will just us one. MW and I like wooded sites at state campgrounds and we have found that many don't have power or water. So, I believe this will be a very workable solution. I haven't yet purchased the second Honda. JMTC!
I haven't bought a generator yet but I like the idea of running it on propane. Was that an easy conversion and how much did it cost?
__________________
2015 GMC Denali 3500 4X4 Duramax
2019 Cedar Creek 36CK2
grumpyoldman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2016, 07:43 AM   #62
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 950
Quote:
Originally Posted by NMWildcat View Post
I must admit I'm impressed with all the different ideas for enclosures. Just seems like a lot of trouble to build and haul around. Our 2 Hondas are 10 years old and we have used them in rain, hail, snow, and dust storms. I do put them on a small wooden pallet to keep them out of the mud and dust. In prolonged bad weather I might put them under the fifth wheel overhang. Just don't see the need for enclosures.
One needs to keep the generator as far away as possible from the trailer, especially never under it fro any reason, and other campers. Particular notice needs to be paid to wind direction to prevent CO from entering yours or any other camper!

There was an event apx 12 years ago at some School Tailgating event where this happened. Generators are now banned at many school tailgating events. I am installing a dispersal system to prevent this scenario and hopefully get dispensation from the Pope to once again allow generators.
270S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2016, 02:05 PM   #63
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 6
I have a Honda ec3000, very quite and I can put it in back of truck with no help. Usually do not need it, but like having it along as a back up..
gmw9510 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2016, 03:32 PM   #64
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Gainesville FL
Posts: 20
After Walking into a neighbors campsite before I could hear his generator, I asked him what it was. RYOBI 2200 watt. I checked one out at Home Depot. Just as quiet as Honda, lighter, is towable like luggage, and costs about half of what the Honda does. It won't run the A/C but it will do everything else. You can also hook two of them in tandem and run a small A/C. Let's face it, you're camping. If you want all the comforts of home, go to an RV park, or stay home.
Rodney-the-Rock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2016, 03:54 PM   #65
Senior Member
 
D_B Travelers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Watauga, Texas
Posts: 697
The Ryobi RY i2200 are indeed quiet and by using a parallel cable you have 30 amps. When I was looking for a cable, I found Ryobi had quit making them, but found the Arien's cable worked perfectly.
We were camping at Texas Motor Speedway several years ago in my parents MH; it was cold as a witch digger's brass monkey at night and we were running the genny like everyone else around us. About 2 AM the carbon monoxide warning went off! I jumped up and turned off the generator and started opening the windows to get fresh (really FRESH 28 degree air) into the MH. I reset the sensor and went back to bed with extra covers only to have it go off again about 30 minutes later. I reset it again, dressed, and on a hunch took it outside into the dead still (pun) night air. It went off in about 2 minutes! Outside the MH. We were better off in the MH as it was higher off the ground. I am surprised there wasn't a bunch of suffocated NASCAR campers the next morning!
__________________
D_B Travelers - 39 nights in 2018, 58 nights in 2017. [U]1st love: 2014 TT WJ3001w, now 2016 40' FW SOB, 2015 GMC 3500HD CC DRW Duramax, TST 507rv TPMS.
"Happiness? A good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle."
George Burns (1896 Ė 1996)
D_B Travelers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2016, 04:14 PM   #66
Senior Member
 
NMWildcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 6,799
Quote:
Originally Posted by D_B Travelers View Post
We were camping at Texas Motor Speedway several years ago in my parents MH; it was cold as a witch digger's brass monkey at night and we were running the genny like everyone else around us. About 2 AM the carbon monoxide warning went off! I jumped up and turned off the generator and started opening the windows to get fresh (really FRESH 28 degree air) into the MH. I reset the sensor and went back to bed with extra covers only to have it go off again about 30 minutes later. I reset it again, dressed, and on a hunch took it outside into the dead still (pun) night air. It went off in about 2 minutes! Outside the MH. We were better off in the MH as it was higher off the ground. I am surprised there wasn't a bunch of suffocated NASCAR campers the next morning!
LOL!! Welcome to NASCAR!! We are NASCAR Americans! We breathe exhaust on purpose. Now you know what that blue haze is every morning over the RV campgrounds We try to go to Las Vegas, Phoenix, Texas, and Fontana and spend a week at each. Nothing like the smell of exhaust in the mornings with your bacon and eggs But it is always worse at Texas for some reason; except for that year the tornado went through.
__________________
Scott and Liz - Southern NM
2012 Wildcat Sterling 32RL - w/level up (best option ever)
2007 Chevy 2500HD 4dr short bed Duramax w/allison
Reese Fifth Airborne air ride king pin coupler with Sidewinder
NMWildcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 12:33 AM   #67
Member
 
Blktegra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 34
This has been a good read. I've had my trailer for almost a year now and will be attending an event that has no hookups and we are spending 3 nights in the August heat. I have been back forth like the last beer in your cooler on a back road with no Ice about what to buy. My buddy runs the 2 honda 2000s and boy do I love them and know they will last forever. Hell last week after his initial start of the Ac he shut one down and the ac continued to run on a single unit. It's funny after spending 30k on a trailer I don't want to drop 2k on some generators.

I've looked hard at all the brands and touched and ran each one I could actually get to see in person. I do want quiet so I can run ac all night without the thought in my head my genset might be pissing someone off. I do really like the new champion 3400 watt invertor that claims 3100 running watts. I just have a feeling that it's really a POS when it comes down to it. Agree to disagree on that one

I have seen no mention of the Kipor invertors on these 7 pages. I'm quite surprised nobody has brought them up. Not as quiet as the Hondas, but the ig3000 model can be had (in a dealer by me) for $1040. That's cheaper then I could find on the Internet. I have 2 friends that use these models for a 32' bumper pull and a 5th wheel toy hauler. They love them. I've looked very closely at them and they are truely a honda clone when it comes to the motor. Yes at full load it rated for 65db which is getting in the noisy range. And it's not a ton of power so you have to watch what you are running. The fit and finish of these models are really nice and if you put one of those new Polaris invertors next to it you will start to wonder who copied who
Blktegra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 12:43 AM   #68
Site Team
 
bikendan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Camano Island, Washington
Posts: 25,186
The Kipor gennys have around longer than Champion.
But they faded from the market when Champion hit the market.
Kipor had raised their prices to almost as much as Hondas/Yamahas.
Plus warranty service for them was hard to find.

Dealers started dropping them and now you can hardly find them.
__________________
Dan-Retired California Firefighter/EMT
Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
bikendan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 01:03 AM   #69
Member
 
Blktegra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan View Post
The Kipor gennys have around longer than Champion.
But they faded from the market when Champion hit the market.
Kipor had raised their prices to almost as much as Hondas/Yamahas.
Plus warranty service for them was hard to find.

Dealers started dropping them and now you can hardly find them.
Agreed on dealers dropping them but I thought the price was far less the red or blue ones. Now, I haven't priced the smaller 1 or 2k watt units but like I said the ig3000 can be had for under $1,100 bucks shipped free to your door IF you want to buy off the internet. This is where the parts and warranty hassle comes in. I was able to find a dealer very close to my home and this will more then likely be the one I buy.
Blktegra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 09:36 AM   #70
Senior Member
 
f5moab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,058
I have a Honda EU 2000, and it is quiet, but I will never purchase one again. The power inverter has been replaced twice, once under warranty, once with cash. The circuit breaker has also been replaced.

Nothing like getting the trailer setup, the generator setup, starting it up and finding out there is NO AC output and you are approx. 100 miles from anything. Lucky with two batteries and warm weather, I was able to hang around for five days. This happened twice.

The following info, might pertain to all other generators.

The other problem I had, was partly my fault, for reading the owner's manual and expecting it to be correct, and NOT reading every page (could be a problem with many generators).

The owner manual states for under 6 month storage, "Fill with fresh gasoline and add gasoline conditioner *. Run the engine for 10 minutes
to use up the non-treated gasoline."

(My fault...they do note to used unleaded fuel, and in the USA/Canada the use of Ethanol fuel is OK, but "unleaded fuel" without Ethanol is "recommended." So, naturally, I used unleaded fuel with ethanol...all that I could find in Moab; so not much choice.

Exactly what I did and it was in storage for about 3 months, not the full 6 months. Well, I ended up having to rebuild the carburetor; not a big problem and only about $15 for the kit.

Per the technician in the Honda repair facility, the owner's manual is primarily printed for Japan and does not take into account what happens if ethanol fuel is used. And 2-6 months with ethanol fuel will cause problems with the fuel sitting in the fuel bowl/carburetor. Exactly what happened in my case.

His suggestion was if over a month, run the generator dry of fuel and open the fuel bowl drain (small screw on bottom of fuel bowl (takes about a minute after you find a very small screwdriver). Takes quite a few pulls when fuel is added again to get the fuel into the system and the bowl filled.

His other suggestion was to use high octane non-ethanol gasoline, which is available in in the area I now live in ID and to add to add a small amount of Sea Foam or another stabilizer. So I have used only premium non-ethanol gasoline and have had NO problem, even with the generator sitting over three months with fuel in the system.

Starts up every time with one or two pulls. However, the inverter went out again.

So, would I purchase a Honda again? NOPE. Granted, I probably got a lemon and possibly the inverter might be the same used on other generators.
f5moab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 10:26 AM   #71
Senior Member
 
HONDAMAN174's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
Posts: 2,960
Look around the campgrounds. 3 to 1 at my campgrounds have gone with one or two Honda 2000's.

So I did too.


2014 Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra "Clifford"
__________________
2014 Stealth Evo 2850- "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7- "Clifford"
2013 Honda Accord Coupe V6 w/Track Pack- "Julia"

Just glad to get away
HONDAMAN174 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 11:16 AM   #72
Blog: RVroadtripper.com
 
hbillsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Near Dallas Texas
Posts: 994
Champions as POS...NOT!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blktegra View Post
... I do really like the new champion 3400 watt invertor that claims 3100 running watts. I just have a feeling that it's really a POS when it comes down to it...
Disagree with the POS opinion. Had my Champion 3100 now for 3 seasons and it runs great and quiet (58db). I use Stabil or Seafoam in the gas to counteract the Ethanol stickiness and its worked out great.

I'm now in the process of adding an Extended Run kit that will let me plug it into my 6 gal portable marine tank. This will both allow me to run much longer than the 6 to 7 hours per internal tank I get now. It will also make it easier to go get fillups at the station. Lastly, when I put her away for the season, I don't have to mess with making sure the onboard tank is empty. With the portable marine tank, I just power wash it and let it sun dry.

Oil changes, cleaning the carburetor jet after desert camping, etc. are all easy to do user maintenance. If you ever have a question, you can call their 800 service number and an articulate, knowledgable service tech in California will work with you on the phone. Champions are reliable, quiet, weigh less to pick up, less expensive and have great customer service. In my experience, definitely NOT a POS.
__________________
2016 Wildcat 295RSX - 2015 GMC 2500HD DblCab Duramax/Allison 4x4 Z71 6.6' Bed
Maxxis 235/80/16E; AirBags w/AirLift1; mor/Ryde Rubber Pinbox; Andersen UltimateII Alum. 5erhitch on Reese Flipball w/Curt 4" offset; LCI Ground Control3; King Dishtailgater; Traveling with 10' Portabote;
hbillsmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 05:09 PM   #73
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 11
Amps vs. watts

Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySnowBird View Post
We bought a set of Honda 2000 ie and it companion. we hook them both together to create 4000 amp. it ran our Outback 29' bumper pull trailer just fine when we were set up with not ship to shore line. I carried them with us as backup because some places had storms that knocked out the camp electric supply.. we took two medium dog kennels and made hole in the back for the electric cord to hook them together and to run the trailer cord through. we put the exhaust to the kennel doors so the units could breath but not get wet in the rain.. I ran a steel cable thro the handles and locked it to our camper. one person took the design one step farther and put a motion detector inside the kennel so if some one tried to pick it up the alarm would sound nice and loud. Our gennies worked just fine with our 30 trailer and with our 30 RV.
I'm sure you meant 4000 watts with your parallel Honda generators, not 4000 amps. A new RV owner may be confused as to what are the power requirements of his RV. A 2000 watt generator creates a nominal 18 amps of power. Connecting them in parallel provides an available amperage of 36 amps, more than enough to run all the electrics of a 30 amp RV. The watt to amp formula is watts divided by system voltage (in the U.S usually 110) equals amps. The RV owner is not only faced with the cost and output of the generator(s), but mobility and storage. A 4000 watt generator will power a 30 amp RV, but it is large and heavy. Storage in or on the RV may be prohibitive. I opted for two Wen 2000 watt with a parallel adapter. At 50 pounds each, they fit nicely in my fifth wheel equipment bay, can be sited away from the RV, they are quiet and virtually a clone of the Yamaha 2000 watt generator. The Honda 2000i is a favorite and has a parallel adapter, but is more expensive.
taroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 05:41 PM   #74
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by miagigirl View Post
We just bought our first TT. What gender should we buy and why? Also when looking a campgrounds, they say 30 or 50 amp. What the heck does that mean?
We opted for two Wen 2000 inverter genis and a 30 amp parallel converter adapter. At 50 pounds each, they fit nicely into my fifth wheel equipment bay with minimal weight issues. A single 3300 watt or twin 1650 watt generators in parallel will suffice for a 30 amp TT system. If you have a 50 amp system, you will need a generator system that produces at least 5500 watts to power all of your electrics. Most generators are rated at wattage, versus amps, so you need to convert the watts to amps to find your requirement (watts divided by system volts equals amps.) Size and weight are considerations, so consider where you will store the generator(s) when you travel. Although usually used for dry camping, they are handy for an emergency (a Walmart parking lot), or many state or national parks. Consider the type of camping you plan and the noise restrictions for that type of camping. We initially thought that generators were unnecessary based on our planned camping. A cold, dark night in Louisiana when we couldn't locate our planned campground changed that. The Walmart parking lot was looking very attractive. Fortunately we found an alternative campground, but vowed to never again be caught without the dry camping option. We also started to carry potable water on board. A working commode is handy in the middle of the Louisiana marshes.
taroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 05:42 PM   #75
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 643
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYDP77 View Post
I swear by the Honda "handi" 3000i generator for a 13,500 btu A/C. Spend the extra money for peace and quite, even get compliments on other campers on it. It weighs about 75 lbs dry and easy to roll around with handle and wheels.
I've used two 3000is for years to provide power to my sound reinforcement system and back lines for bands when there has been no outdoor power or when the outdoor power was inadequate. While we don't dry camp often one has been plenty for our 30A TT.
keith_h is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 09:54 PM   #76
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 157
I bought the champion 3100 running/ 3400 starting (gasoline) that is dual fuel. It's about 300 watts less on propane. Complaints. No hours meter and no oil came supplied in the box. But, I knew this before purchase. So first thing I did was install hour meter and oil. So far great generator, I have the 12th or 16th unit they made and not one problem. Have about 20 hours on it and 18 are running propane right off the quick connect on the trailer. Very happy with it so far.
clutchd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2016, 11:46 PM   #77
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 394
I've had my Yamaha inverter generator for nearly 3 years and it is still under warranty. Keep in mind that although the Yamaha and Hondas cost more there are parts and warranty shops in just about every city. Nearly all the other brands are made in China, even the ones with American names. Parts may be hard to come by or take a long time to get. It's just something to consider. And please take this advice regardless of what brand you buy: Don't use gas with ethanol. It's worth the extra money to buy ethanol free gas or "boat gas" as it is sometimes called. Generators often sit for a couple of months without being run. The ethanol sinks to the bottom of the carburetor and mucks it up. When that happens it may not be repaired under warranty. There are web sites that lists your local stations that have ethanol free gas.
__________________
OldBob

I may be old but I'm trying, very trying.
2015 RAM 1500 - EcoDiesel
Rockwood Ultra V 2715VS
OldBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2016, 02:03 AM   #78
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 50
Kaarun, I think you may have been the only one but that's ok. The OP mentioned in the subject line " what generator do we buy"
With auto spell checker it is not uncommon to see mistakes. Especially ones written by pro journalists. It's possible the op meant to write genny. Not gender. My iPad suggested Benny for genny. We all make misstakes.
Murphie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2016, 02:55 AM   #79
Who Dares, Wins
 
doc73's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Chester County, PA
Posts: 6,658
8 pages, has the OP even returned?
__________________

Pat, Jen, Heather & Sapphire, the head mouser.
2015 ChevyHD D-Max
2018 Artic Wolf 315tbh8
doc73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2016, 04:37 AM   #80
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 14,400
Quote:
Originally Posted by doc73 View Post
8 pages, has the OP even returned?
Nope,last on at 7/20/16! Youroo!!
__________________
youroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
generator

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Forest River, Inc. or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:30 AM.