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06-26-2012, 05:54 PM
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Main breaker popping
We are having difficulty cooking without popping the shoreline main breaker. It seems we can not run the a/c, TV, microwave oven and a toaster oven without it tripping. Also, running a blow dryer and the microwave or the toaster oven causes problems. I have a sunseeker 2860 30 amp circuit and I find it hard to believe I am that limited. Any suggestions?
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06-26-2012, 06:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by digger47
We are having difficulty cooking without popping the shoreline main breaker. It seems we can not run the a/c, TV, microwave oven and a toaster oven without it tripping. Also, running a blow dryer and the microwave or the toaster oven causes problems. I have a sunseeker 2860 30 amp circuit and I find it hard to believe I am that limited. Any suggestions?
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You are...it's more of the startup with what you want to run. The A/c pulls about 11 to 13 at cycle if you have the TV, microwave going then you start something else up like a toster oven you could pull over 30 0r 32 amps...
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06-26-2012, 06:50 PM
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I agree with tbritt. My old TT, a 2010 Flagstaff 831RLSS, was a 30 amp unit. With the A/C on, we could run either the microwave or a blow dryer, but not both at the same time.
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06-26-2012, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by digger47
We are having difficulty cooking without popping the shoreline main breaker. It seems we can not run the a/c, TV, microwave oven and a toaster oven without it tripping. Also, running a blow dryer and the microwave or the toaster oven causes problems. I have a sunseeker 2860 30 amp circuit and I find it hard to believe I am that limited. Any suggestions?
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One (New Jersey) word: Forgetaboutit!!!
Look at the amp ratings at everything that you are trying to use. Then look at ths start-up amps, and you'll see that you are pushing the draw to the max.
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06-26-2012, 07:39 PM
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Thank you
I was hoping it was nothing more than a lack of knowledge. It is time we learn how to adjust to minimum power. Thanks for all the input.
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06-26-2012, 07:43 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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I use an electric fry pan to do the eggs and bacon in the morning. When the DW hits the microwave, we pop everything.
I now run an extension cord to the pole and tap into the 20 amp duplex for the toaster and fry pan. That way the camper is not bothered by what I am doing outside.
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06-26-2012, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by herk7769
I use an electric fry pan to do the eggs and bacon in the morning. When the DW hits the microwave, we pop everything.
I now run an extension cord to the pole and tap into the 20 amp duplex for the toaster and fry pan. That way the camper is not bothered by what I am doing outside.
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X2 even run coffee maker outside off 20amp
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06-26-2012, 11:02 PM
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Nothing really to add here, but want to know, why camp and use electric cooking devices? I grew up camping, most every week-end, in a primitive campground. No water, had to carry it in buckets, several hundred yard, no electric, no sewer, a dump station a mile away. 45 sites, did have 3 bathrooms, flush toilets, one light bulb, on men's side. Never went in women's side. We had a fire, or a Coleman stove, and that was camping. Oh, by the way, only bath was in the river with 44 degree water and the trout.
Sorry, not trying to hijack this thread, just can't believe the electric load people are putting on campers these days. Grill over the fire some bacon, or even better, country ham. Put your iron skillet over the campfire. Who cares about drying their hair, you're camping, not attending the prom.
Sorry for the vent, enjoy your time, anyway you want it.
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06-27-2012, 10:50 AM
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Yes we do use a lot of power to camp in our RVs but many of use use them a lot and for extended stays. Many of us are older and live in parts of the country where AC is a must and when we spend lots of time in them we also require TVs and the internet etc. Before we buy Rvs we should know out needs and the limits of 30 amps. I would not even think of camping in the spring, summer or fall in SE Texas without a 2 AC fifty amp unit. While it may be ok for some, a 30 amp with one AC in this part of the country, without shade would not be fun.
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06-27-2012, 11:13 AM
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I think a common misunderstanding is that "if i can do it at home, I can do it in my rv!" you have to remember that at home almost everything you listed has its own separate breaker to run off of. At the campsite your using one for everything.
Herk, we used to use the electric skillet also but know we use a Coleman road trip grill that has a burner and griddle insert. In the hot summer months I try to keep the heat outside.
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06-27-2012, 11:23 AM
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X2 what windrider said.
We camped for years with a 30 amp trailer and the only time we popped the breaker was when my wife turned on the blow dryer while we had the A/C on, the microwave running, and the TV on.
You might consider buying a low wattage travel hair dryer. Many blow dryers use 14 to 16 amps alone. Add in the A/C and a 800 watt toaster while the blow dryer is on and you will pop the breaker every time.
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06-27-2012, 11:50 AM
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[QUOTE=MotocrossCamper;215670]I think a common misunderstanding is that "if i can do it at home, I can do it in my rv!" you have to remember that at home almost everything you listed has its own separate breaker to run off of. At the campsite your using one for everything.
I agree with (motocross) we are fultimers, for over 3 years now and do alot of camp hosting in different rv parks and (it worked at home) is a standing statement. be safe!!
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06-27-2012, 12:28 PM
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To answer the OP's original question, about popping the 30 amp breaker, here is the answer. The trailer cord and load center is designed to handle the load of the camper. Any extra electrical load may not work. AC, Microwave, water heater on electric, when you add it all up is over 25 amps. Now add a television, and a dvd surround system, and you are at max. If there are many lights on, and the converter is drawing power for that, then you are definitely over 30 amps. We have trouble with some at work popping breakers, and we're not running televisions, other than to test, just refer, water heater, and AC, and all the lights. Of course, in the real world, all the lights should not be on at once, and we don't put batteries in them to make sure the converter will handle the load.
One thought, if you can cook outside, move the electric skillet out there , and use the regular house plug on the pedestal. And as someone mentioned, get a travel hair dryer.
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06-27-2012, 01:06 PM
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Digger 47, I agree with Fire Instructor, but would like to add. Being a Retired Firefighter and Electrician, when you say shoreline are you speaking of the one in the park pedestal or the one in you load center? I had a similar issue, but the breaker in the load center in the camper kept tripping. I replace the breaker after doing some math and still had the problem with the new breaker tripping! I found that the breaker for the A/C and 30 amp main in the load center were next to each other. Heat was building up in the confined area causing the main to trip. I mover the A/C breaker down two spaces away from the 30 amp main and have not had an issue since. But if the park supply is tripping than Fire Instructor is right on! Hope I didn't muddy an water. Be safe!
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07-17-2012, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 Powerstroke-Wildcat
Digger 47, I agree with Fire Instructor, but would like to add. Being a Retired Firefighter and Electrician, when you say shoreline are you speaking of the one in the park pedestal or the one in you load center? I had a similar issue, but the breaker in the load center in the camper kept tripping. I replace the breaker after doing some math and still had the problem with the new breaker tripping! I found that the breaker for the A/C and 30 amp main in the load center were next to each other. Heat was building up in the confined area causing the main to trip. I mover the A/C breaker down two spaces away from the 30 amp main and have not had an issue since. But if the park supply is tripping than Fire Instructor is right on! Hope I didn't muddy an water. Be safe!
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Very good observation! If not applicable here, works for others.
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07-17-2012, 07:34 PM
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My new V-Lite pops the breaker if the AC and Microwave are run together. In my mind it's stupid I have to turn off the AC to make a bag of popcorn.
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07-17-2012, 07:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beanoil
My new V-Lite pops the breaker if the AC and Microwave are run together. In my mind it's stupid I have to turn off the AC to make a bag of popcorn.
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What are you plugged into when this happens? Home? Cg? 15 amp household plug in? 30 amp? Are using extension cord?
Here's the deal.
A/c starting amps 15-18 amps
A/c running amps 12-14
Average microwave amps 12-15
Converter amp 3-8
30 amp service to camper.
Math isn't hard here
That's not including if hw heater is running or tv is on.
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07-17-2012, 09:19 PM
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07-18-2012, 11:28 AM
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Wildcat - Shoreline power from the RV site. Have not had an issue with the breakers in the MH. Now that I know this is normal, wife and I reviewed our amp usage and have made adjustments. Thanks for all the input and help.
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