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Old 02-25-2024, 02:52 PM   #1
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Hello all I have a 2022 17JGBL Wolf Pup. I am a first time owner. I just had a electrician drop a 50amp plug in my garage. I plugged in my surge protector. Then plugged in my trailer. My Batteries are disconnected at this time. I have No power in the trailer. I went to the breaker box and noticed the main was not on. When I flip the main switch. I hear a single beep (Cannot tell from where). But I still have no power. I checked all the fuses in the fuse box next to the circuit breakers. No blown fuses. I have googled and I cannot find anything to help. Can anyone here help. I am not sure what a single beep would mean. I have Tested the 50amp plug with a volt meter. Everything looks good there.

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Is your surge protector the kind that is really an EMS and will not allow power thru tot he trailer with any kind of electrical faults? (A good thing)


Is your trailer actually a 50 amp RV or is it a 30 amp RV and you are using an adapter?
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My trailer is a 50amp. I am not using any type of adapter. Here is my surge protector. I currently have two green lights which means power on. with no faults.
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My trailer is a 50amp. I am not using any type of adapter. Here is my surge protector. I currently have two green lights which means power on. with no faults.

The one you are linking to is a 30 amp one. Is that the exact one you have?
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Here is my surge Protector. I have two green lights so I believe the power coming from the house is good with No faults. I am not using any adapters. My RV is a 50amp.
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The first question is pretty basic. Are you certain the electrician installed a 50amp RV plug?
Then, what does the surge protector indicate? Are all the indicator lights green?
Next, does the rv cable have an indicator light and is that lit to show that power is getting to the trailer?
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Reverse_snowbird. Thanks for the reply. My surge protector is all green. that means there is no faults to it. I have checked the plug in my garage. It is 50amps solid coming out of it. No my RV cable has no indicators on it.
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Reverse_snowbird. Thanks for the reply. My surge protector is all green. that means there is no faults to it. I have checked the plug in my garage. It is 50amps solid coming out of it. No my RV cable has no indicators on it.
How are you measuring amps? Amps are a measure of current flow. Volts are a measure of potential. If you have no power then there is no current flow. Three things are required for electrical current flow; voltage, resistance and a complete circuit.
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I may be wrong, but I'm almost certain a 2022 17JGBL Wolf Pup is a 30amp TT.
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I aplogize if this is a rookie question. I am very new to this. How can I tell I never received a manual for the RV. just a bunch of Tech specs that goes over everything else and not the electrical system.
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I may be wrong, but I'm almost certain a 2022 17JGBL Wolf Pup is a 30amp TT.
X2 I see some had a 55 amp converter.
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I appreciate everyone's responses I think my frustration got the better of me. Let me go back and double check everything and look up the proper specs. I will post again tomorrow. thank you for all the quick responses.
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I appreciate everyone's responses I think my frustration got the better of me. Let me go back and double check everything and look up the proper specs. I will post again tomorrow. thank you for all the quick responses.

Please read this thread which will show illustrations of a TT-30 amp outlet and a 14-50 amp outlet.


We have many electricians miswire the three wire 120 volt 30 amp outlet as 240 volts like a four wire 50 amp is. It burns stuff up.


https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...let-27223.html
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X2 I see some had a 55 amp converter.

That's 55 amps 12 volt DC...which is not the same as 30 amps 120 volt AC. I hope the OP didn't confuse this.
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Yes, double check to make SURE electrician got it right. I myself have see 2 instances where an electrician installed a plug and it was wired wrong. Hopefully your surge protector has saved you from frying something.
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I appreciate everyone's responses I think my frustration got the better of me. Let me go back and double check everything and look up the proper specs. I will post again tomorrow. thank you for all the quick responses.
No one here starts off knowing everything. We all start off with rookie questions. Please let us know what you find out so others reading this thread can learn as well.

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Got a photo?

This little trailer has a 55 amp electrical system? I'd have bet it's 30 amps. The main breaker inside the trailer will tell us what it is. Grab your cell phone and take a picture for us.

Another key is the umbilical cord. 50 amp systems have four (4) blades. 30 amp have three (3). Three main types of 50a service and neither the electric range nor the dryer will work. Common for residential electricians do not know how the RV version is wired.

Hopefully no smoke...

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No Wolf Pup is 50amp. It's 30amp.
Many electricians are unaware of how RVs are wired. The owners end up frying their electronics because they didn't make sure how the electrician wired it.
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Hello all I have a 2022 17JGBL Wolf Pup. I am a first time owner. I just had a electrician drop a 50amp plug in my garage. I plugged in my surge protector. Then plugged in my trailer. My Batteries are disconnected at this time. I have No power in the trailer. I went to the breaker box and noticed the main was not on. When I flip the main switch. I hear a single beep (Cannot tell from where). But I still have no power. I checked all the fuses in the fuse box next to the circuit breakers. No blown fuses. I have googled and I cannot find anything to help. Can anyone here help. I am not sure what a single beep would mean. I have Tested the 50amp plug with a volt meter. Everything looks good there.

Here is the surge protector I bought Amazon Link

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Here are the choices and the wiring for RV power.

Please do not confuse terms for Alternating Current AC or direct current DC systems. AC systems are 120 volts while DC systems are 12 volts. AC systems are protected by Circuit breakers while DC systems are protected by fuses.

The 50 amp service in your garage should be protected by a 2 pole breaker. A 30 amp service should be protected by a single pole breaker.

So what did the electrician install? And not what the electrician was told to install or said he installed?

There are some folks: (a) who think they know what they are doing, and then there are some folks; (b) who know what they are doing. There is a vast difference between (a) and (b).

If you have a volt meter and know how to use and read it, then measure the voltages as shown below. These are correct. Any other configuration is most likely wired wrong. Once can't measure AMPs with a voltmeter. That requires and amp meter and a load on the source.

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I aplogize if this is a rookie question. I am very new to this. How can I tell I never received a manual for the RV. just a bunch of Tech specs that goes over everything else and not the electrical system.
Unfortunately, these trailers don't come with a manual. All you receive are manuals for the components in the trailers and hopefully a spec sheet listing the components, their serial numbers and sometimes contact information for the manufacturers.

My advice would be to unplug your trailer and contact your electrician before you try to plug it in again. Your surge protector and everything else indicates that you have a 30 amp rig. You shouldn't be able to physically plug a 30 amp plug into a 50 amp socket.

As others have said, unless your electrician knew that you were using that plug for an rv and knew how to wire it correctly, he may have installed a 30amp dryer plug.
You could physically plug into a 30 amp dryer plug, but it will fry the electronics in the rig.

We understand that this is frustrating for you, but don't want you to rush into this and cause thousands of dollars worth of damage. Pictures will help, but it's not going to show how that plug is wired.
If you're in a hurry to test everything, rent a space at a local rv park to test things out.
If you still have problems at an rv site, then further diagnosis will be required.
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