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Old 03-28-2013, 03:52 AM   #1
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Oops plugged into a 220 outlet

Changed welder outlet cover to rv cover, and plugged in my grey wolf TT.
Now nothing works, how can I tell if I fried converter or any appliances?
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corgan,
Sorry to hear that...There was a few threads on here where others did the same thing. I could not locate the threads though. Do a search of the forum and maybe you can find it.
When the others wake up, they can help.
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Been there--done that. Some info on a thread I started last summer. Use search and it's called Power Converter Issue. Insurance covered the bulk of mine but it was over $2000 to get everything replaced. Sorry to hear and good luck!
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:16 AM   #4
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Happens a lot.

Get it up and running on 110 again and see what doesn't work.

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Old 03-28-2013, 05:39 AM   #5
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Fyi converter is fused protected and may have saved your converter but possibly not.
Microwave possibly
Water heater possibly
Fridge
Stereo/dvd entertainment center is also fuse protected behind the unit but doesn't guaranty that it didn't fry.
Tv's possibly
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Any knowledge as to what is supplied by 110 and what 12 volt system operates on a 2013 26rl grey wilf TR?
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:53 AM   #7
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Any knowledge as to what is supplied by 110 and what 12 volt system operates on a 2013 26rl grey wilf TR?
110
Converter
Tv's
Water heater on electric
Fridge on electric
Microwave
A/c unit


12v
Water heater on gas
Fridge on gas
Radio
Furnace

12v items susceptible to being fried to
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:03 AM   #8
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Fyi

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...let-27223.html


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Old 03-28-2013, 06:25 AM   #9
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110
Converter
Tv's
Water heater on electric
Fridge on electric
Microwave
A/c unit

12v
Water heater on gas
Fridge on gas
Radio
Furnace

12v items susceptible to being fried to
Don't forget about the water pump 12v.
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Through my own lack of electrical knowledge, I'm not sure exactly what he plugged into, but I'd sure like to avoid it. Could someone enlighten me with just a little more detail? Thanks.
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Changed welder outlet cover to rv cover, and plugged in my grey wolf TT.
Now nothing works, how can I tell if I fried converter or any appliances?
Unfortunately this happens quite a lot (even by licensed electricians), and I'm sorry to hear about it. It's just one of those live and learn things, so don't knock yourself up about it. If you do need to replace the converter, depending on what you had, you can look at this as an opportunity to upgrade to a better converter.

One of our members last year was lucky enough that it was just the converter that got fried, and she had no other damage. Hopefully, that's all that happened to yours. She was also fortunate enough to have a mobile RV service guy come out to her house and change it out. It was not too expensive at all for her.

It's not that hard to change the converter if you are comfortable working with things like that, If not, then you will need to get someone else.

Herk, posted several links to similar forums about this, while we were helping her. Here is a link to his post:

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...tml#post251214

Also included in these posts is information about surge guards and outlet testing--------either one which could have saved this from happening to you.

Maybe others will read this, and learn from it too....so they don't make a similar mistake.

P.S. I have stated many times that I sure wish RV dealers would make that pdf file that Turbs and others have pointed out about 'how to properly wire a 30 amp outlet'...a mandatory part of selling a trailer. But that would take money out their pockets, in fixing the damage done when it happens.

Maybe we can make it a mandatory download when new members register here in these forums or at least have a link show up on your registration page. LOL
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Here's the link to a previous thread... http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...0-a-27121.html

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Old 03-28-2013, 06:54 AM   #13
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Through my own lack of electrical knowledge, I'm not sure exactly what he plugged into, but I'd sure like to avoid it. Could someone enlighten me with just a little more detail? Thanks.
Read this

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...let-27223.html

A normal 30 amp plug looks like it should be wired 220 when plugging in at home when in fact it should be wired 110.

This happens a lot when someone has there friend who "knows" electrical.
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Kinda guessing here but what it sounds like is, he changed out a 220v welder (probably the old 3 prong dryer type) outlet in his garage and replace it with a 30amp 120v outlet for his camper so he could plug it in while set in the garage. Booth outlets look similar and I'm guessing that why its a common mistake.
Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

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These are also 12 volts
Lights
LP/CO detector (it may have an inline fuse - pull the detector out of the wall to find it)
Cooktop hood fan
Power awning if installed
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Kinda guessing here but what it sounds like is, he changed out a 220v welder (probably the old 3 prong dryer type) outlet in his garage and replace it with a 30amp 120v outlet for his camper so he could plug it in while set in the garage. Booth outlets look similar and I'm guessing that why its a common mistake.
Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

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Yes dennis he just hooked the wires to the rv outlet as they were wired for the welder.
Welder has two 110 volt leads and a neutral/ground
Rv plug has one 110 volt lead a neutral and a ground.
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Through my own lack of electrical knowledge, I'm not sure exactly what he plugged into, but I'd sure like to avoid it. Could someone enlighten me with just a little more detail? Thanks.
I have a lack of knowledge on this matter also, but here is the little (dangerous) information in my arsenal.

A 30 amp RV plug should have just 1, 110 volt lead going to it. Many/most home dryers, stoves, and such have 2, 110 volt leads.....2 x 110 is 220 volts. Many home welder receptacles are 220 volts. All of those types of 220 volt receptacles should have a different prong arrangement at the receptacle so you can not readily plug your RV plug into those. If it doesn't seem to fit correctly, don't use it !!

If you have access to the breaker box, the circuit breaker for a 110 volt 30 amp receptacle should be narrow and just cover 1 knockout. Something that is 220 volts will be twice as wide and cover 2 knockouts.

If you question whether a campground pedestal is wired correctly, then get a receptacle tester (GE 50542 Receptacle Tester, 3-Wire Light Improper Wiring Indicator - Amazon.com or similar from Lowe's or HD) along with a 30 amp to 20 amp adapter, and test the pedestal before plugging in.....I always do that before plugging into an unknown source. My polarity tester also has a GFCI test button on it, and it has never tripped a 30 amp breaker except the 1 I installed at home......leading me to believe that all of the campgrounds that I have visited do not have GFCI on their 30 amp circuits. Many have the 20 amp GFIs, but not the 30s.

Now, if you have a 50 amp power supply, someone else will have to chime in, as I haven't a clue.
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I have a lack of knowledge on this matter also, but here is the little (dangerous) information in my arsenal.
You did good Chap.

A good place to start an RV electrical education is at the link below. Make sure to click on the lefthand tabs for 30 amp service, outlet testing, and campground service. There are also even more tabs for the welding service outlets, etc.

On each page, there are also other links to things like surge guards and the like. Be sure to click on those if you want to learn about them too. You can spend of lot of time at this site, really learning how it all works. It's time well spent so just take it slow and read it at your leisure. Once you absorb it, you will be able to save yourself a lot of future grief.

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When checking 110 receptacle with a volt meter what should it read. I know the 220 read 110 from hot to ground and 110 from negative(white) to ground
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When checking 110 receptacle with a volt meter what should it read. I know the 220 read 110 from hot to ground and 110 from negative(white) to ground
You should only have ONE prong read 110v
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