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08-02-2024, 05:43 PM
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Power loss
I have lost power to my electric fireplace and the GFCI outlets only. Everything else in the camper works. They share a tandem circuit.
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08-02-2024, 05:55 PM
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Have you reset the GFCI
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08-02-2024, 05:58 PM
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Yes
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08-02-2024, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coachet7
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If it reset then there is power at the GFCI. A GFCI will not reset if there is no power to it.
So, your GFCI socket has voltage at it?
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08-02-2024, 09:35 PM
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I had something similar happen and I had to replace the GFCI receptacle entirely. That solved my problem. It just wouldn't reset at all.
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08-03-2024, 07:05 AM
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I guess a more appropriate answer would have been I attempted to. There is no power to the GFCI outlets. The other outlets work.
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08-03-2024, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Justauser
I had something similar happen and I had to replace the GFCI receptacle entirely. That solved my problem. It just wouldn't reset at all.
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Thanks I will try that.
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08-03-2024, 07:22 AM
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Why don't you use a meter to see if there is power to / from the GFCT before replacing it.
I'm not a fan of wasting $ and just throwing parts at repairs.
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08-03-2024, 07:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oaklevel
Why don't you use a meter to see if there is power to / from the GFCT before replacing it.
I'm not a fan of wasting $ and just throwing parts at repairs.
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X2 Back home we call that troubleshooting.
No idea what camper they have but my fireplace and GFI are on different circuits.
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08-03-2024, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GolfingDave
X2 Back home we call that troubleshooting.
No idea what camper they have but my fireplace and GFI are on different circuits.
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X3. It is amazing the amount of posts that describe electrical issues, and there is no mention of what the measured voltages were and where.
In ours, the fireplace and AC share a breaker. The receptacles are on another.
To the OP, maybe it's a dumb question, but what other devices are working?
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08-03-2024, 08:16 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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5 minutes with a multimeter and the guessing is over.
Quick question... since the GFCI didn't reset, (likely meaning it has on power) did you check the GFCI circuit breaker in the power distribution box? Turn it completely off and then back on.
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08-03-2024, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coachet7
I have lost power to my electric fireplace and the GFCI outlets only. Everything else in the camper works. They share a tandem circuit.
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i'm pretty sure i don't everything. but what is a tandom circuit?
do they share a common circuit breaker or are the fireplace and gfci outlets on separate circuit breakers?
have you tried to reset the actual circuit breakers?
if this is a 30 amp rv and you say other device work the issue is at least past at the circuit breakers in the panel out to the outlets. if 50 amp it may be losing power on one incoming power leg.
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08-03-2024, 11:36 AM
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There are two things to understand about GFCI systems:
(a) there is usually ONE GFCI outlet.
(b) there are several GFCI Protected Outlets
If the GFIC (a) trips, all outlets described as (b) won't work.
You will need a voltmeter to determine if there is voltage from the converter panel to the source or input side of the GFCI outlet. If voltage is present, then check the voltage on the LOAD side of the GFCI outlet. No voltage here indicates a tripped GFCI outlet or a defective GFCI outlet.
Flip the breaker in the converter panel for the GFCI circuit to OFF. Then press the reset button on the GFCI outlet and then flip the circuit breaker ON.
I always analyze and diagnose the failed part before spending money at the store.
Bob
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08-03-2024, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICKDOE
i'm pretty sure i don't everything. but what is a tandom circuit?
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They may be possibly meaning a tandem circuit "breaker" as explained in post #3 in this link.
https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ml#post2399055
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08-03-2024, 12:49 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Duplicate post.
I sure wish there was a mobile app!
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08-03-2024, 12:50 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
5 minutes with a multimeter and the guessing is over.
Quick question... since the GFCI didn't reset, (likely meaning it has on power) did you check the GFCI circuit breaker in the power distribution box? Turn it completely off and then back on.
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This was supposed to say the GFCI likely has NO power.
Too much time passed for me to edit my dyslexia.
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08-03-2024, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
This was supposed to say the GFCI likely has NO power.
Too much time passed for me to edit my dyslexia.
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A mobile app would likely cure your dyslexia!
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08-03-2024, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICKDOE
i'm pretty sure i don't everything. but what is a tandom circuit?
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To me a tandem circuit is two circuits wire to one circuit breaker terminal.
I did that with a couple of small circuits I added that are not used together instead of buying a tandem breaker. The breaker's terminals had crimp humps for two wires. It did not pass inspection when the house went on the market.
Electrician fixed it. How? He added a short wire to the breaker and then pigtailed both circuits off of the one wire. That passes inspection. Go figure.
Now you have a potential spot for a loose connection in my opinion.
Pretty sure this might have been either just the inspectors opinion or it is a local reg.
We had a missing ground anyway on another circuit that he fixed. That on was not my doings. Was that way from way back I guess.
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08-04-2024, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wmtire
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thank you for the explanation and picture. i understand about the slots on the breaker panel and all the different breaker types shown in the picture. i guess i never equated the word tandem to the breaker that feeds two separate circuits from a single slot. but the two circuits are independent of each other, with their own breaker, and having one of the breakers trip will not affect the other circuit. our house panel is full of these types of breakers!
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08-08-2024, 07:55 PM
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Longshot but we recently had an issue with the GFI outlets going out as well as the refrigerator. Took some time, but turned out. Somebody tried running too many electronics, and it actually popped the reset on the inverter. Hit the reset And everything came back on
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