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Old 08-16-2019, 11:46 AM   #1
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Power panel labeling

I HAVE A 2019 PRIME TIME CRUSUDAR 297RSK AND IT HAS A PROGRESSIVE DYNAMICS --POWER CONTROL CENTER. MY PROBLEM IS PRIME TIME DOES NOT GIVE YOU A MANUAL ON IT OPERATION. THIS TO SAY THAT THEY DO NOT SHOW WHAT THE BREAKERS OR FUSES COVER IF ONE BLOWS.. NOT LABLING AT ALL--YOU HAVE TO START GUESS WHAT THE BREAKER OR FUSE COVERS.-----CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THE LABLING IN THE CONTROL PANEL??????????

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Old 08-16-2019, 11:52 AM   #2
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Power everything up and pull one fuse at a time (or one breaker) and see what goes off. Take notes while your doing it and then make labels.
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:23 PM   #3
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that may be hard for the electric water heater, battery charger/converter, and other 'behind the scenes' circuits that aren't as readily evident whether they are 'no longer working' or not...

send a picture of your main panel, and your fuse panel, and maybe other owners can chime in as to 'what' each individual circuit may be powering...
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My breakers and fuses in my Prime Time Avenger were labeled, but they were hand written and many of them were illegible. Even the ones that were readable are generic, just not that much space. The breaker labeled BATH is actually the GFI circuit so it includes the outlet in the galley and the outside outlet. So, what Cboss said.
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X3 on what CBoss said.

I spent a good bit of time doing just that on our RV and most of it was labeled. As Keith said, the ones that were labeled were generic and some of them made no sense.

I'll take a picture of the label I made and laminated for our power center if I can remember to.
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:53 AM   #6
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Circuit labeling is a problem in both houses and RVs. Making things worse is when the actual wiring doesn't match the labels.

Tracing stuff is no fun, but it turns out to be an essential part of ownership.

Which is why stuff for airplanes always costs more - the documentation is not allowed to be subpar (except for Boeing, and they are paying a price for that now - couldn't resist the cheap shot)

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Old 08-17-2019, 12:35 PM   #7
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Here's a picture of the label I made to replace the one in the power center. This is for a PD4560. I'd be glad to provide the file for it if anyone is interested. It's an .ods (LibreOffice) spreadsheet, but I can convert it to an Excel file.

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THANKS for the print out of the labeling.on the door it has/top-down/F1?c--AC1--MIC--CO?--Ref--MAIN--MAIN--AC2--GF1--Go?--W/H//15a-20a-15a-20a-15a-50a-50a-20a-15a-15a-15a. These are all breakers. On the panel right side are pull fuses.top--Down
15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-30-next 5 are blank then the 3/25afor reverse power. All the pull fuses are noy labled.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:30 PM   #9
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that sounds great but they should send the manuals when you buy your camper. I have owned other campers and all I had to do was call and talk to someone in parts and tell them what I needed and they would send it to me. NOT PRIME TIME they say not available.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:37 PM   #10
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flipping and pulling fuses is backwoods. you are suppose to have diagrams or a schematics of anything in that trailer. Like I said I have had other trailers and all I had to due was call parts and tell them what I needed and the would send it to me.
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Old 08-18-2019, 03:46 PM   #11
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I sent you a reply on what I had on my 4560 control panel. I think I know a little bit about schematics and diagrams since I worked in a design and fabrication lab for 30yrs.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:58 AM   #13
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THANKS for the print out of the labeling.on the door it has/top-down/F1?c--AC1--MIC--CO?--Ref--MAIN--MAIN--AC2--GF1--Go?--W/H//15a-20a-15a-20a-15a-50a-50a-20a-15a-15a-15a. These are all breakers. On the panel right side are pull fuses.top--Down
15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-15-30-next 5 are blank then the 3/25afor reverse power. All the pull fuses are noy labled.
You have 50 amp service, meaning you have two 50 amp systems. So each 50 amp main breaker feeds the breakers that are next to it.

AC1 and AC2 are for your air conditioners - you'll have to figure which is which.
MIC is your microwave.
CO I've never heard of. (Maybe it's your 120VAC GFCI circuit? See comment below) UPDATE: Looking at Bama's pic, it's probably your converter.
Ref is your fridge.
Main are the main breakers that feed all the others.
GF1 is one of your two 120VAC GFCI protected outlet circuits.
Go I've never heard of.

You don't seem to have a breaker for the water heater.

Seems weird that GF1 is with AC2, and AC1 doesn't have a GF1 or GF2. I would have expected a GF1 with AC1 and a GF2 with AC2. UPDATE: Maybe you don't have a GF2; Bama only seems to have a single 120VAC outlet circuit.

Hope this helps some.
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You have 50 amp service, meaning you have two 50 amp systems. So each 50 amp main breaker feeds the breakers that are next to it.

AC1 and AC2 are for your air conditioners - you'll have to figure which is which.
MIC is your microwave.
CO I've never heard of. (Maybe it's your 120VAC GFCI circuit? See comment below) UPDATE: Looking at Bama's pic, it's probably your converter.
Ref is your fridge.
Main are the main breakers that feed all the others.
GF1 is one of your two 120VAC GFCI protected outlet circuits.
Go I've never heard of.

You don't seem to have a breaker for the water heater.

Seems weird that GF1 is with AC2, and AC1 doesn't have a GF1 or GF2. I would have expected a GF1 with AC1 and a GF2 with AC2. UPDATE: Maybe you don't have a GF2; Bama only seems to have a single 120VAC outlet circuit.

Hope this helps some.
I suspect that GF1 is actually GFI. There is usually only one GFI circuit with multiple outlets: bathroom, galley, and outside are most common.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:10 PM   #15
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thanks for the reply. watched a video on removeable of the power panle. They showed
where the hole was used for throwing away spare parts some 5-6 items. good
fabrication technician and inspection practices. I will just keep working on problems as they come. thanks again for your help
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