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Old 01-29-2013, 09:02 PM   #41
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Here's pics - I noted that someone said a 50amp outlet has 4 prongs for the RV outlet. So.....does that mean this is wrong?
AARRRRRGGGGG danger

THIS is why I HATE giving advice over the internet. Until you posted those pictures I had no idea what a moron you had for an electrician.

What ever you paid him, you were robbed.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:07 PM   #42
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THIS is what you paid for. What you GOT was screwed.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:21 PM   #43
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Actually, there is no such thing as a 50 amp RV plug/receptacle.

The 50 amp service on a RV uses a standard 4-wire plug/receptacle -a NEMA 14-50.

By the way, what your electrician installed is a NEMA 5-50 receptacle, which is a 2 pole 3-wire grounded 125 VAC receptacle. So, if he wired it with two hots and a ground (220 VAC), deferent lay find a different electrician!!! This guy is a danger to everyone - you, himself, the guy that follows up on his work, the electric company, etc.

DO NOT USE!!!!!
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:37 PM   #44
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Check these two sites for good explanation of NEMA plugs and receptacles and their uses

NEMA connector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NEMA Plug & Receptacle Configurations Reference Chart (Straight Blade)
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I don't think you could plug into that with anything unless you made your own adaptor. That is a straight 250 volt welder plug. It likely doesn't have a separate neutral to it as for that receptacle would be wired with an 8-2wg cable. You could use the wiring that is already installed to make that into a 30 amp 125 volt recep. It would be heavier wire than necessary but that's alright. Looks like he did a nice job installing it though!
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By the way, what your electrician installed is a NEMA 5-50 receptacle, which is a 2 pole 3-wire grounded 125 VAC receptacle. So, if he wired it with two hots and a ground (220 VAC), deferent lay find a different electrician!!! This guy is a danger to everyone - you, himself, the guy that follows up on his work, the electric company, etc.

DO NOT USE!!!!!
I think it is actually a NEMA 6-50R receptacle, which is 250 volt.

The NEMA 5-50R has the large blade on the right hand side while the 6-50R has the large blade on the left.

I also am wondering the direction the pic was taken, as it appears the receptacle could be upside down.





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That is a straight 250 volt welder plug. It likely doesn't have a separate neutral to it as for that receptacle would be wired with an 8-2wg cable. You could use the wiring that is already installed to make that into a 30 amp 125 volt recep. It would be heavier wire than necessary but that's alright. Looks like he did a nice job installing it though!
Give a cookie to fast murray, you'd think he was an electrician by trade.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:57 PM   #47
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Roadtrip I thought your outlet looked familiar- just went out and looked and yep, all of the 220v welders we have and have used for as long as I can remember use thid type.
- here's the pic of our welder outlet and plug- matches yours


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Old 01-29-2013, 11:21 PM   #48
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You're right, NEMA 6-50.

I original had that, looked at the picture again and changed my post - I didn't notice it was upside down -DUH!

Even with that, I would find a new electrician.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:22 PM   #49
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I am staying out of this.

I am of the opinion that the whole thing needs to be done right either as a 30 amp outlet (requires less rework) or ripped out entirely and the correct wiring for a 50 amp service put in.

My 2 cents and done.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:16 AM   #51
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I am staying out of this.

I am of the opinion that the whole thing needs to be done right either as a 30 amp outlet (requires less rework) or ripped out entirely and the correct wiring for a 50 amp service put in.

My 2 cents and done.
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This post is like 2 drunks in a Bar telling a person how to wire a house! Mixed input without all the facts will (KILL) someone! I only advise people to use a (Licensed/Bonded/Insured Electrician)! Youroo!!
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:11 AM   #53
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This post is like 2 drunks in a Bar telling a person how to wire a house! Mixed input without all the facts will (KILL) someone! I only advise people to use a (Licensed/Bonded/Insured Electrician)! Youroo!!
I think we are pretty much on the same page that trying to use that outlet as it exists to power an RV is a mistake and leave it at that.
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I am staying out of this.

I am of the opinion that the whole thing needs to be done right either as a 30 amp outlet (requires less rework) or ripped out entirely and the correct wiring for a 50 amp service put in.

My 2 cents and done.
Sold.

And the picture of the outlet is correct - it makes a shocked/sad face (no pun intended).

I agree - I'm calling someone new.

But we even had an electrician friend install one at grandma's house, and he was surprised to find RV plugs as their own thing.

So when we built our house, we didn't own an RV. Our instructions to him were - "Oh, and an RV plug along this wall - maybe about here."

Granted - he never followed up to ask what we meant by RV plug (we wouldn't have known at the time) - but I can't completely blame him. His clients gave shoddy instructions.
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Just asking not pointing fingers, but do you not require an electrical permit for an installation like that, and if so were was the inspector after work completion?
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why would the inspector care about a correctly wired welding outlet?
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Perhaps the permit application requests an RV outlet? Again I don't know just asking?
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got me - we built a whole house, not just a garage or RV bay so the builder took care of all that stuff. Couldn't even tell you if anyone besides me called it an RV plug.
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LOL - but apparently I got a A-1 welding outlet installed (dunno how to weld, but that's never stopped me before).
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Well it seems like you have all the correct info now and you will be able to use the outlet for the RV as originally intended!! Enjoy and have fun.
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