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11-13-2011, 06:26 PM
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strange problem - amber outside light
We have a Cherokee 28BH TT and am having a strange issue. the amber outside light CANNOT be turned off for some reason!!!........the dual switch panel inside the camper works the interior lights fine, and WAS turning the exterior(amber) light on and off just fine. i pulled the interior panel covering the back of the switches and actually pulled the wires off the switch for the exterior light but it stayed on. I pulled fuses and tripped all breakers and the light stayed on.............ended up pulling the bulb. any thoughts or know how to get a wiring schematic of our camper????? thanks a ton in advance!! 
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11-13-2011, 06:34 PM
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your outside light should have its own separate switch. never seen it tied into other lights.
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11-13-2011, 06:36 PM
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yep it has its own dedicated switch..........it worked before, but now even with the switch out of the picture the light stays on????............
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11-13-2011, 06:57 PM
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Don't shoot me.....Just asking....
Does the light fixture itself have a small rocker switch on it? Are you sure?
I had one once that had a rocker toggle on it. Took me a year to notice it.
If the switch was in A position, the light stayed on regardless. If the switch was in B position, it was controllable by an inside switch.
Sounds kind of like what you are experiencing.
Anyhow, good luck.
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11-13-2011, 07:06 PM
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hey no problem at all!!......not 200% positive but pretty sure as i pulled the lense to remove the bulb...........just a real shallow bezel to hold the lense.......you had me thinking tho for a bit
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11-13-2011, 07:33 PM
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Maybe kinda sorta like this?
The switch might be on top. Mine was on the side. That was almost 20 years ago.... jeesh where has the time gone...??
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11-13-2011, 07:40 PM
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thx for the pic, i dont recall one one on there as we always use the switch inside.........not sure, will swing by the dealer tomorrow to take a peek at one..........our TT is 150 miles away thx fer the pic!!
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11-13-2011, 09:15 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Whoa Red Rider...
You say the light stays on even with the wires off the switch?
The switch in my camper to the outside light breaks the hot wire not the ground. Perhaps in YOUR camper it breaks the ground and not the hot wire. If so, your light has found another path to the frame. Could be a pinched wire.
If your light breaks "hot" then you must have taken apart the wrong switch.
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11-13-2011, 09:47 PM
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My trailer (2012 cherokee Grey wolf 28bh) has a remote that can operate the outside light. I had a similar problem one night and found I had turned the light on with the remote, which overrides the switch. Doesn't sound the same since you shut off power, but that is a 12v light, so would be on a fuse
Joel
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11-13-2011, 10:09 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Mmmm since I did not see a model year I assumed it was like my 2010.
I do not have a remote that controls lighting; just the wall switch.
So, you are saying the remote circuitry (if you have it) overrides and provides 12 VDC to the light regardless of switch position on the wall...
That would explain a lot.
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11-14-2011, 07:16 AM
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Bad switch perhaps?
Failed in the on position?
If you can, take the panel off and unplug the wires from the switch. If the light goes off, replace the switch....
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11-14-2011, 07:33 AM
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jtstromsburg you may be onto something...........i have the LCI digital fob for slide and jack controls as well on our '11 ...........
herk7769 i hear ya when i pulled the wires of the porch lights rocker and it STAYED ON..........i couldnt believe it hence the desire to see a wire schematic...........
JT can you tell me if the digital fob/ receiver retain the settings as long as you have a batt hooked up???.........i assume that i will need to kill the light via the fob then
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11-14-2011, 07:43 AM
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I had the same thing happen with our new 5th wheel .. The "Remote" was needed to turn the light off ..the inside rocker switch would not turn it off..
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11-14-2011, 08:00 AM
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I believe the fib will retain its memory until its battery dies. This is just an assumption, but If your panel is similar to mine, remove the wood panel inside the cabinet that is behind the control panel. The receiver half of the fob/remote system its behind there and can probably be manually shut off there. At least it could give more understanding of the remote system.
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11-14-2011, 09:45 AM
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sounds good fellas will see if the fob is the "culprit" 
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11-14-2011, 01:43 PM
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I had an Award TT where the exterior lights would turn on when it warmed up and turn off when it cooled off. I found a shorted running lamp wire to a batt wire in the ceiling. it was shorted across the hot wire for the interior lights. I ended up running a new wire up to that point to bypass the shorted wire.
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11-14-2011, 07:13 PM
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well i called the dealer this am............they are telling me if the light was turned on by the digital fob it will need to be turned off using the fob..........i do vaguely recall hitting the "light" button on the fob in the middle of the night...........will see this weekend but it appears the mystery is solved 
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