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10-09-2021, 07:19 PM
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Tire blowout damaged gfi
Recently had a blowout that damaged and pulled out about a 15ft section of wiring. Everything still works from what we can tell except the outlets inside the rv. The wiring was pulled from the gfi breaker. Anyone have this happen? Was going to try and rewire it myself first, but cannot find a diagram of the wiring schematic. I have insurance on it. Just trying to not have to turn it in.
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10-09-2021, 07:57 PM
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They don't do schematics for trailers. You'd have better luck finding hair on a frog.
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10-09-2021, 08:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmiddleton1119
Recently had a blowout that damaged and pulled out about a 15ft section of wiring. Everything still works from what we can tell except the outlets inside the rv. The wiring was pulled from the gfi breaker. Anyone have this happen? Was going to try and rewire it myself first, but cannot find a diagram of the wiring schematic. I have insurance on it. Just trying to not have to turn it in.
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Tire looks like probable Belt Separation. A "Free Spin Inspection" usually allows the separation to be observed a few hundred mile before the tire comes apart.
Yes Pot holes can cause belt separations many hundreds of miles later. I have covered in my blog the research paper i that proved a 100% correlation between hitting pot hole and belt separation.
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10-09-2021, 08:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmiddleton1119
Recently had a blowout that damaged and pulled out about a 15ft section of wiring. Everything still works from what we can tell except the outlets inside the rv. The wiring was pulled from the gfi breaker. Anyone have this happen? Was going to try and rewire it myself first, but cannot find a diagram of the wiring schematic. I have insurance on it. Just trying to not have to turn it in.
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It would also help if you posted year, make and model number of RV since you don't have it listed in your profile.
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10-10-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWolfPaq82
They don't do schematics for trailers. You'd have better luck finding hair on a frog.
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X2 on the schematics. From the pics, the wiring only appears to be a small part of the damage. This looks like a real world insurance claim to me.
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10-10-2021, 01:28 PM
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My daughter and son-inlaw had a blowout this past summer on their 2015 trailer and it was so bad that the insurance company totaled the camper. Just don't under stand why if these companies are going to install these cheap tires why they don't route the wiring under the body instead of the wheel well, don't make sense to me
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10-10-2021, 01:31 PM
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Stronger wheel wells?
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Originally Posted by No more shoveling
My daughter and son-inlaw had a blowout this past summer on their 2015 trailer and it was so bad that the insurance company totaled the camper. Just don't under stand why if these companies are going to install these cheap tires why they don't route the wiring under the body instead of the wheel well, don't make sense to me
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How about stronger wheel wells, fiberglass or 16 gauge steel?
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10-10-2021, 01:32 PM
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This happened to my coworkers neighbor. He let insurance cover it.
Sorry about your luck.
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10-10-2021, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmiddleton1119
Recently had a blowout that damaged and pulled out about a 15ft section of wiring. Everything still works from what we can tell except the outlets inside the rv. The wiring was pulled from the gfi breaker. Anyone have this happen? Was going to try and rewire it myself first, but cannot find a diagram of the wiring schematic. I have insurance on it. Just trying to not have to turn it in.
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Isn't things like this is what insurance is for?
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10-10-2021, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tireman9
Tire looks like probable Belt Separation. A "Free Spin Inspection" usually allows the separation to be observed a few hundred mile before the tire comes apart.
Yes Pot holes can cause belt separations many hundreds of miles later. I have covered in my blog the research paper i that proved a 100% correlation between hitting pot hole and belt separation.
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Most of those who know this just think it's too much effort 
Same with TPMS systems only "too much money".
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10-10-2021, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
How about stronger wheel wells, fiberglass or 16 gauge steel?
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Easier and cheaper to just inspect tires regularly, keep pressures properly maintained, make sure TT isn't overloaded, slow down, and install a TPMS to at least give some warning.
As for "wheel well armoring", often not practical but the above mentioned steps certainly are.
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10-10-2021, 01:51 PM
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Fascinating how these potholes have so little effect on tow vehicles. 
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10-10-2021, 01:55 PM
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Clarification
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Originally Posted by Larry-NC >
How about stronger wheel wells, fiberglass or 16 gauge steel?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
Easier and cheaper to just inspect tires regularly, keep pressures properly maintained, make sure TT isn't overloaded, slow down, and install a TPMS to at least give some warning.
As for "wheel well armoring", often not practical but the above mentioned steps certainly are.
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Uhh...Mike, that was a suggestion for the FACTORY, not the PURCHASER. Guess it wasn't obvious.
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"Everybody's RV is not like your RV."
"Always take pictures with the button on the right."
"Always bypass the water heater before opening the low-point drains."
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10-10-2021, 01:57 PM
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Flyboy1950
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Tire blowout damage & insurance
What is the tire brand? Contact the tire manufacturer, they will pay for damages to your vehicle caused by a defective product. If you turn it in to you insurance, there may be a deductible and as we all know, it probably will raise your rates. It’s worth a shot.
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10-10-2021, 01:58 PM
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How often?
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Originally Posted by TitanMike;2646070[COLOR="Red"
]Most of those who know this just think it's too much effort[/COLOR]
Same with TPMS systems only "too much money". |
Are you suggesting that on a cross-country trip covering 250-300 miles per day, that each morning one jack up the trailer at multiple spots to spin the wheels?
What if you are covering 450 miles a day? Do you need to stop at lunch, too?
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"Everybody's RV is not like your RV."
"Always take pictures with the button on the right."
"Always bypass the water heater before opening the low-point drains."
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2008 Cherokee 38P: at Ivor, VA permanently
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10-10-2021, 02:03 PM
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And...?
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Originally Posted by Sbosserman
What is the tire brand? Contact the tire manufacturer, they will pay for damages to your vehicle caused by a defective product. If you turn it in to you insurance, there may be a deductible and as we all know, it probably will raise your rates. It’s worth a shot.
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And what if the manufacturer asks the OP to prove that no potholes were encountered before they will pay? How would you go about doing that?
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"Always take pictures with the button on the right."
"Always bypass the water heater before opening the low-point drains."
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2008 Cherokee 38P: at Ivor, VA permanently
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10-10-2021, 02:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
Are you suggesting that on a cross-country trip covering 250-300 miles per day, that each morning one jack up the trailer at multiple spots to spin the wheels?
What if you are covering 450 miles a day? Do you need to stop at lunch, too?
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You aren't doing that with the tires on all your vehicles?
Free spin every few hundred miles...what a bunch of bull hockey.
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10-10-2021, 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
Are you suggesting that on a cross-country trip covering 250-300 miles per day, that each morning one jack up the trailer at multiple spots to spin the wheels?
What if you are covering 450 miles a day? Do you need to stop at lunch, too?
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I don't bother to jack up routinely, I just run my hand over the tire tread surface from ground on one side, over top to ground on other side, and see if I feel any irregularities. I can check over probably 300 of the 360 degrees or 80% plus. Far better than ZERO and I would certainly pay more attention to this if I hit a pothole worth noting (like having to reset the dentures  ). Takes 10-15 seconds per tire and well worth it. Also gives me some exercise.
As for stopping, I'm an old man and you KNOW I have to stop. About every 100 miles 
Also have given up those 400+ mile daily drives. More like 250-300. Last time I had to get up in the morning and go to work was on Jan 10, 2004. Sorry, I can't print here the message I left behind as I left work. Felt GREAT
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10-10-2021, 05:29 PM
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I would NEVER buy another trailer without first replacing the tires with good ones and then having the axles properly aligned.My last trailer blew a tire at 1,200 miles and 45 mph. It cost over $12,000. I blew 3 more tires before I got wise and put on Goodyear Endurance tires!
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10-10-2021, 07:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMorrell
I would NEVER buy another trailer without first replacing the tires with good ones and then having the axles properly aligned.My last trailer blew a tire at 1,200 miles and 45 mph. It cost over $12,000. I blew 3 more tires before I got wise and put on Goodyear Endurance tires!
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Make the better tires a condition of the sale/purchase and only pay difference in market price of oe tires and new.
Could also ask that Dealer has alignment checked at a shop that has machine capable of providing printout.
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