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Old 08-04-2020, 08:00 PM   #1
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And Another Chinese Tire Leaves Its Rubber On The Road!

Yes, I was naive and STUPID for not replacing these Chinese made tires, known as "China Bombs", sooner. Now I'm left with the damage results of the explosion and have no choice but to replace. I thought because others were having luck with the newer China made tires, I could too, not true, BIG MISTAKE! Now I'm looking at broken electric brake wires and severed Lippert Ground Control jack wiring, Splintered fender skirt, not pretty, lot of work by me too save money.

"Constancy" is the brand came on our Shasta Phoenix and I recommend replacing ASAP. I phoned the supplier and was told I could submit a warranty and photo and they would gladly send me a new tire of like kind. I will not replace this problem with another problem.

Yes, I check pressure before every outing, weather was cool with light rain, didn't hit anything except bugs. Tire was 26 mons old w/less than 6000 miles.

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Old 08-04-2020, 09:34 PM   #2
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I'm not familiar with your FW, but if it's over 13,000lbs, a set of Sailuns should do you right. Check to see if you have 110psi wheels, and after you weigh your rig, use the load chart to adjust the psi to match your load, anywhere from 80psi to 110psi.
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Old 08-05-2020, 12:19 PM   #3
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With 5200# axles and LRE 16" tires you need to know the cause of the failure.

I doubt it was a "China" thing.
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I'm not familiar with your FW, but if it's over 13,000lbs, a set of Sailuns should do you right. Check to see if you have 110psi wheels, and after you weigh your rig, use the load chart to adjust the psi to match your load, anywhere from 80psi to 110psi.
X2!! This is good advice.
The OPs RV is about the same weight as mine. I had 18 month old (from the date stamp) load range E OEM tires fail. Three on one trip within 100 miles. Cost of repairs was $8000.
Honestly, I no longer remember the no-name brand, but they were made in China. I don't care what the 'experts' say about tires from China, and I don't care why they failed. Knowing why doesn't help when you are on the side of the road in the middle of a trip. 18 month old tires should not fail, especially in multiples.
I replaced all four, and the spares I bought, when I finally reached a town large enough. Bought Maxxis M8008 LR E and had them for five years with no problems.
Last year I replaced those with LR G 14ply all steel tires. They look like semi tires.
What an improvement in handling! I run them at 85psi (max of 110) and couldn't be happier. Should of done this years ago.
Good luck and happy RVing!
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The core of the problem rests not with China, but these STUPID RV mfrs who PUT these on their product. There are several AMERICAN alternatives that are trustworthy. The mfrs should be sued and forced to cough up some of their enormous profits for putting junk on for tires and putting the buyers' lives at risk.
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The core of the problem rests not with China, but these STUPID RV mfrs who PUT these on their product. There are several AMERICAN alternatives that are trustworthy. The mfrs should be sued and forced to cough up some of their enormous profits for putting junk on for tires and putting the buyers' lives at risk.
I really don't care where the tire is manufactured. My Maxxis were made in Thailand. My current tires were made in China.
I think the problem is they put tires on new RVs that are at their limits with dry weight, much less loaded. Also they buy the cheapest in bulk, so that's why there are so many brands on them we have never heard of. And you get what you pay for in some cases.
But I agree, it's the RV industry not having to be responsible for these failures.
When you have to pay extra on a new RV for an option for better tires, that tells you something......
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My 2016 Rockwood came with "Constancy" tires They are 5 years old now and have about 10K miles on them we have traveled from Coast to Coast never had any issues or problems with them.....The plan is to replace them in 2021 after this season with Goodyear Endurance tires.
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My 2016 Rockwood came with "Constancy" tires They are 5 years old now and have about 10K miles on them we have traveled from Coast to Coast never had any issues or problems with them.....The plan is to replace them in 2021 after this season with Goodyear Endurance tires.
And your RV is 4000lbs lighter which could be the difference......
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And your RV is 4000lbs lighter which could be the difference......
Why would the weight make a deference?
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In my case I feel the problem lies w/ RV manufactures putting the bare minimum rated tires on trailers. I had Carlises on my trailer, they seemed fine. We put 6 k miles on them prior to trading for GY Endurance. When I looked at the load rating, there was no way they were adequate for the weight of the trailer. This is after deducting the tongue weight. What also prompted me to change was I had the same tires on my flatbed w/ approx. 10K miles and 3 years on them. I walked out and saw 1 tire was flat w/ the tread separation. Looked like the tire had exploded. I checked the other-tread separation on it also.
I changed TT tires next week and went up in load rating and one size 195 to 205.
You could make the argument on the rating of the axels used on many trailers.
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Everything stated about "chinese tires" may or may not be true. (I prefer American made)

Here is my point. All tires are susceptible to punctures. Chinese, Canadian and or USA. ALL! From Nails, glass and all manner of road trash. I actually had a tire iron fully inserted into a tire. leaving only the lug nut socket visible. Ask a tire store for weirder stories.

The difference is on your car/truck a leaking tire becomes evident very quickly. So, you pull over. And all new vehicles have a TPM system.

On your travel trailer you may have no idea you have a problem until someone pulls up next to you blowing the horn and waving frantically. By then you have probably experienced a Chinese bomb. No matter the country of origin.

Morale? Get TPM for your trailer.

Just saying, your mileage may vary.
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X2!! This is good advice.
The OPs RV is about the same weight as mine. I had 18 month old (from the date stamp) load range E OEM tires fail. Three on one trip within 100 miles. Cost of repairs was $8000.
Honestly, I no longer remember the no-name brand, but they were made in China. I don't care what the 'experts' say about tires from China, and I don't care why they failed. Knowing why doesn't help when you are on the side of the road in the middle of a trip. 18 month old tires should not fail, especially in multiples.
I replaced all four, and the spares I bought, when I finally reached a town large enough. Bought Maxxis M8008 LR E and had them for five years with no problems.
Last year I replaced those with LR G 14ply all steel tires. They look like semi tires.
What an improvement in handling! I run them at 85psi (max of 110) and couldn't be happier. Should of done this years ago.
Good luck and happy RVing!
$560.00 plus tax is not to bad at all
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Why would the weight make a deference?
Maybe cause you are putting more weight on the tire.
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These came on mine, not a cheap tire, 75 mph rated

18RJBBL with Adventure package

The tires on Trailer stayed @ 119F measured with heat gun at fuel stops.

I tookspareoutofunder bed and put it in truck under tonneau with the generator
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16” wheels rated 110 psi and Sailun is the only way to go
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Maybe cause you are putting more weight on the tire.
Wouldn't that be caused by a deliberate overload?
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I'm not familiar with your FW, but if it's over 13,000lbs, a set of Sailuns should do you right. Check to see if you have 110psi wheels, and after you weigh your rig, use the load chart to adjust the psi to match your load, anywhere from 80psi to 110psi.
Is the Sailuns better than the goodyear endurance?
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The way I look at it, the tires the manufacturers put on RVs are akin to the styrofoam coolers Omaha Steaks sends their products in — they are designed to get the product from the warehouse to the customer. Some people keep them and reuse them, but many people just throw them away. I have never kept one of those coolers.

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The OP didn't say if he was using a TPMS. My last trip out, we left storage with 83 psi in all 4 5er tires. 15 miles later the alarm goes off when the LR tire lost air at 70 psi. Sure enough, I picked up a screw. Had I NOT been using a TPMS, I might have wanted to blame my Westlake China bomb tires. That TPMS saved the day and a lot of potential damage when the tire would have blown out.
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We had load range "C" tires made in China on our Flagstaff originally which were right on the hairy edge of legal even for the dry weight. We now have MAXXIS load range "E" which are Thailand made. I'm not a China fan, but my guess is they get much of their bad rap because of both "pilot error" and RV manufacturers bad decisions. My point is it really doesn't matter where things are made. What is important is the company that makes them, how they do quality control, and the overall management of the manufacturing process.

When I left "ocean cruising" and bought a "land yacht", I was amazed to find even simple documents like wiring diagrams, for example, are basically non-existent. It gives new meaning to "caveat emptor"!
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