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04-29-2022, 06:21 PM
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Balance new Trailer Tires?
Anyone know if Forest River (or their suppliers) balances the tires that go on new trailers? (travel trailers specifically; I know motorized RVs would need / have them balanced).
I don't recall seeing weights on the wheels, now that I think about it. And I can't look at the moment, as I store the trailer away from home.
I'm getting new tires installed next week, and when I talked to the shop, they indicated that trailer tires don't need to be balanced. Google search seems to suggest the same.
However, since our trailers are 'travel' and not 'utility'... I'm thinking it wouldn't be a waste of money to have them balanced. And I don't remember my last two trailers bouncing down the road with their factory china bombs, so... ???
The less stuff that falls / gets tossed around while driving the better, is my thinking. And, no, no one will be illegally riding in the trailer while it's being towed. Just my gear, food, etc.
I have a dual axle setup; the trailer is about 5500lbs with gear, batteries, etc. (and is rated for about 7000). Factory tires are 'D' rated, and I'm staying with that.
(And for anyone who asks... I'm getting proper 'ST' tires in the correct size, not truck tires, or anything like that.)
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04-29-2022, 06:29 PM
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Location: Southern NM
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Do whatever makes you feel better. Some folks balance towable tires, some don't. They definitely don't come from the factory balanced.
I haven't balanced trailer tires in many, many years. But that's just me and what I'm comfortable with.
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04-29-2022, 06:34 PM
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Does FR balance tires for trailers? Doubtful but they might be balanced when coming from their tire/wheel supplier.
As for the need to balance trailer tires, there are three schools of thought:
1. It's only a trailer and balancing is a waste of time and money;
2, If it rotates at any speed it should be balanced;
3. i really don't care.
I'm a firm believer that anything rotating and unbalanced will create vibration that will eventually cause damage, even if just loose nuts and bolts.
There will never be 100% agreement in any of the above but for me, after spending over 40 years in the automotive industry I always have my tires balanced when installed. The dealers I buy my tires for just price them with stem and balance rather than individual prices so I don't even notice.
My trailer runs down the highway smooth enough that often items left on the counter are right where I left them when I left (on smooth highways of course).
If you don't mind the inside of your trailer feeling like it's traveling inside a cocktail shaker, then save the few bucks for balancing but then just be prepared to do a lot of "tightening" when you find loose items later.
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04-29-2022, 06:36 PM
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No manufacturer of towables that I know of balances tires. An out-of-balance tire will always be out-of-balance and will place undo stresses on the tire and bearings. I balance all of my tires. You'll find those that will say they don't need balancing, but those folks aren't buying your tires for you. Your choice.
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04-30-2022, 06:19 AM
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Anyone remember U-Haul trailers with the sign painted on the back stating not to pull them over 45 MPH? I believe those trailers didn't need to be balanced I always balance my tires. I've knocked the weights off my truck tires a couple of times, and I could feel the difference. Seems to me you'd get better gas mileage with a smooth riding trailer.
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04-30-2022, 06:31 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: N. Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
Does FR balance tires for trailers? Doubtful but they might be balanced when coming from their tire/wheel supplier.
As for the need to balance trailer tires, there are three schools of thought:
1. It's only a trailer and balancing is a waste of time and money;
2, If it rotates at any speed it should be balanced;
3. i really don't care.
I'm a firm believer that anything rotating and unbalanced will create vibration that will eventually cause damage, even if just loose nuts and bolts.
There will never be 100% agreement in any of the above but for me, after spending over 40 years in the automotive industry I always have my tires balanced when installed. The dealers I buy my tires for just price them with stem and balance rather than individual prices so I don't even notice.
My trailer runs down the highway smooth enough that often items left on the counter are right where I left them when I left (on smooth highways of course).
If you don't mind the inside of your trailer feeling like it's traveling inside a cocktail shaker, then save the few bucks for balancing but then just be prepared to do a lot of "tightening" when you find loose items later.
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I just had a new set of GY Endurance tires put on and balanced too !
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04-30-2022, 08:01 AM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Edgar, WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reprise
Anyone know if Forest River (or their suppliers) balances the tires that go on new trailers? (travel trailers specifically; I know motorized RVs would need / have them balanced).
I don't recall seeing weights on the wheels, now that I think about it. And I can't look at the moment, as I store the trailer away from home.
I'm getting new tires installed next week, and when I talked to the shop, they indicated that trailer tires don't need to be balanced. Google search seems to suggest the same.
However, since our trailers are 'travel' and not 'utility'... I'm thinking it wouldn't be a waste of money to have them balanced. And I don't remember my last two trailers bouncing down the road with their factory china bombs, so... ???
The less stuff that falls / gets tossed around while driving the better, is my thinking. And, no, no one will be illegally riding in the trailer while it's being towed. Just my gear, food, etc.
I have a dual axle setup; the trailer is about 5500lbs with gear, batteries, etc. (and is rated for about 7000). Factory tires are 'D' rated, and I'm staying with that.
(And for anyone who asks... I'm getting proper 'ST' tires in the correct size, not truck tires, or anything like that.)
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Why not search these forums with your question? You will find these same responses and more! Happy scrolling!
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04-30-2022, 08:11 AM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Reprise,
Since the wheels will be off your trailer anyway, the choice seems clear: balance. Even a slightly out-of-balance tire will wear unevenly.
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04-30-2022, 08:33 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Arlington, Texas
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Balance trailer tires
I tow a 4600lb boat/motor/trailer behind my 2015 Force. Two years ago, after a 4000 mile trip, Dallas-Coeur d’Alene and back plus side trips, the right front (dual axle)
tire showed very odd and uneven wear. Bought a new one and had it balanced.
Discount tire said the bad one was out of balance. I, subsequently, had all of them balanced and they all needed it to some extent. The rig tows well with very even wear all around. I agree with above…if it rotates…get it balanced.
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04-30-2022, 08:35 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Millcreek UT
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I balance for free
All the tires I have purchased for any vehicle have been balanced. Since I do not own a machine to mount the tires I have to purchase mounting and balancing for them - so they get balanced for "free".
The only time balancing is not needed is when you are driving down a dirt road at 30 MPH.
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04-30-2022, 09:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: USA
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Bouncing Tires
Balance Balance Balance them tires on that trailer. Stop and think about how bad your front end or rear end shakes, rattles and rolls when it is unbalanced. The same thing is happening to the trailer, 5th wheel, and what ever. Hard on bearings, hard on trailer frames, and anything else that gets bounced around inside depending on how bad the shake, rattle, and bounce is. We do not ride back in that metal box following you so we do not know how bad things are back there. You want to provide all the TLC and preventive maintenance you can. Why try to break it.
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04-30-2022, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Wisconsin/Florida
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Equate out of balance tires with out of round tires. An unbalanced /out of round tire rolls like a cam and is not meeting the roadway smoothly. Now multiply that by 2,4, or 6 wheels. Seeing as TTs are referred to as rolling earthquakes, why add to the magnitude. Unbalanced tires may not be as noticeable on a trailer as it is on a TV, but it is still there.
If you are on a perfectly smooth road and you can hear a hum, it can be caused by flat spots in the tread having been pounded into the pavement on every revolution. That leads to early tire wear and possible failure. That may be true on other trailer components as well. As the saying goes, pay now or pay later.
When we purchased our new TV, I requested that the tires be checked for wheel balance. A discussion ensued that the factory had balanced the tires. Guess what, all four tires were out of balance by 3/4 oz-not any more.
On the previous truck, we had the tires rebalanced when in for service. After the service, we got up to highway speed and had terrific vibration. Not a good balance? No, the tire was balanced, but due to an unnoticed tread separation, it was in balance, but it still rolled like a cam.
One thing we have never fudged on, despite what tire dealers say, we balance all of our tires and check balance on tire rotations. Dealers have also told us that there is no need to balance vehicle rear tires. We have not taken their advice either.
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04-30-2022, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 190
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PenJoe
Equate out of balance tires with out of round tires. An unbalanced /out of round tire rolls like a cam and is not meeting the roadway smoothly. Now multiply that by 2,4, or 6 wheels. Seeing as TTs are referred to as rolling earthquakes, why add to the magnitude. Unbalanced tires may not be as noticeable on a trailer as it is on a TV, but it is still there.
If you are on a perfectly smooth road and you can hear a hum, it can be caused by flat spots in the tread having been pounded into the pavement on every revolution. That leads to early tire wear and possible failure. That may be true on other trailer components as well. As the saying goes, pay now or pay later.
When we purchased our new TV, I requested that the tires be checked for wheel balance. A discussion ensued that the factory had balanced the tires. Guess what, all four tires were out of balance by 3/4 oz-not any more.
On the previous truck, we had the tires rebalanced when in for service. After the service, we got up to highway speed and had terrific vibration. Not a good balance? No, the tire was balanced, but due to an unnoticed tread separation, it was in balance, but it still rolled like a cam.
One thing we have never fudged on, despite what tire dealers say, we balance all of our tires and check balance on tire rotations. Dealers have also told us that there is no need to balance vehicle rear tires. We have not taken their advice either.
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Amen brother. Preach it.
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04-30-2022, 01:12 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Alberta
Posts: 15
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Balancing trailer tires???
You should always balance any tires that will rotate faster than 30 kmh. If you want the longest life out of your tires, bearings and trailer balancing your tires is a small investment to pay. As an added bonus when traveling your stuff in the trailer has a much better chance of being in the same place when you reach your destination.
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04-30-2022, 01:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Fort Peck Lake, MT
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We balanced our new tires when we put them on two years ago, and I can feel the difference when towing the trailer. I can look back and see the old tires vibrate, but not the new ones. A small expense for the wear and tear on the trailer.
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04-30-2022, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2019
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Agreed - Balance!
I agree with TitanMike. If it rotates, balance it.
"I'm a firm believer that anything rotating and unbalanced will create vibration that will eventually cause damage, even if just loose nuts and bolts."
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04-30-2022, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mnoland30
Anyone remember U-Haul trailers with the sign painted on the back stating not to pull them over 45 MPH? I believe those trailers didn't need to be balanced I always balance my tires. I've knocked the weights off my truck tires a couple of times, and I could feel the difference. Seems to me you'd get better gas mileage with a smooth riding trailer.
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I just rented a U-Haul trailer two weeks ago. It had weights on the wheels. (and Carlisle HD trailer tires!)
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04-30-2022, 04:36 PM
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[QUOTE=TitanMike;2729330]
I'm a firm believer that anything rotating and unbalanced will create vibration that will eventually cause damage, even if just loose nuts and bolts.
X2 I spent $800 for new Endurance tires, why would I lower the total cost by a couple of bucks to leave them unbalanced?
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05-05-2022, 06:23 PM
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There are plenty of good reasons to balance trailer tires.
There are plenty of bad reasons not to.
Get them balanced.
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05-05-2022, 06:28 PM
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I just put GY Endurance tires on my trailer. So I saw the rims at the tire shop and the china bombs were not balanced.
My guy balances for free so I had him do it. But like many others have said, my belief is that. I would have done it even if it cost me some money.
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