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04-18-2021, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Reno, NV
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China Bomb got me
Yesterday I was S/B SR 99 in the Lodi area when I felt a tug and heard an explosion along with smoke and debris visible in my mirrors. I hurried to a stop on the right shoulder and discovered one of my Castle Rock tires had let go. 2 yr old trailer with perhaps 2500 miles on them. Checked pressure at 65psi before I left. OAT was 85F and I was traveling at 65mph.
I will be looking for a pair of Goodyear Endurance tires in the SF Bay Area tomorrow.
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04-18-2021, 05:04 PM
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Kanadian Kamper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Ontario
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Damage-wise, you got off light.
Sorry it happened.
Guess you’ll never know why it blew. You can always assume......but if there’s no potholes, or penetrating objects, we just assume.
Safe travels ahead hopefully.
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04-18-2021, 05:05 PM
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Senior Member
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What tire size and rating?
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04-18-2021, 05:14 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asr524
What tire size and rating?
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ST225/75R15..it is a single axle trailer so loading needs to be watched.
Load range D..no road hazards struck that I know of.
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04-18-2021, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Michigan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upflying
ST225/75R15..it is a single axle trailer so loading needs to be watched.
Load range D..no road hazards struck that I know of.
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I only ask since I seem to have read before that E range Castle Rocks seem to fair better than the range D
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04-18-2021, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member
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Do you have a TPMS? Just wondering if you did and it didn't warn you.
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04-18-2021, 06:50 PM
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Member
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I feel your pain. I had the same thing happen to me on hwy 80 and 113 in Davis, 3 years ago. Same brand and approx mileage, it was on a 2016 wildcat Maxx fifth wheel. It cause $4500 in damage but luckily it was insured. Afterwards, I went with Hercules power ST 2s and haven't had an issue (yet....*knocks on wood* lol).
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04-18-2021, 07:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Ouch! I ditched the bombs for the GYs this spring. Maiden voyage coming soon.
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04-18-2021, 07:08 PM
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New here, old elsewhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chriscowles
Do you have a TPMS? Just wondering if you did and it didn't warn you.
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TPMS warns you of low pressure, like you got a nail and slow leak in the tire. A blowout happens suddenly with normal or high pressure with no warning. Some do monitor temp as well, but even then a sudden catastrophic failure of the tires construction happens in less than a second and no system out there will warn you.
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04-18-2021, 10:05 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lwbfl
TPMS warns you of low pressure, like you got a nail and slow leak in the tire. A blowout happens suddenly with normal or high pressure with no warning. Some do monitor temp as well, but even then a sudden catastrophic failure of the tires construction happens in less than a second and no system out there will warn you.
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I understand that.
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04-18-2021, 10:48 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
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OP - 'if' your a KOA member you can get a nice discount on your Goodyear Endurance. go to the KOA website, login, and look for the Goodyear discount. I think it is 15% off each tire.
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04-19-2021, 06:15 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lwbfl
TPMS warns you of low pressure, like you got a nail and slow leak in the tire. A blowout happens suddenly with normal or high pressure with no warning. Some do monitor temp as well, but even then a sudden catastrophic failure of the tires construction happens in less than a second and no system out there will warn you.
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Tires just don’t blow up without low pressure or tire temperature rise. The OP must have had a slow leak ,low pressure or over loaded which caused the blow out. A TPMS could have saved a lot of this damage including the tire.
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04-19-2021, 07:01 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homebrew
Tires just don’t blow up without low pressure or tire temperature rise. The OP must have had a slow leak ,low pressure or over loaded which caused the blow out. A TPMS could have saved a lot of this damage including the tire.
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I agree but you might want to also include "a TPMS that also monitors tire temp"
The ones in new cars and trucks only tell you pressure. The TPMS that came with my RV also monitors temp. That is a huge help for the RV.
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04-19-2021, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Milwaukee
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Please Let's Be Civil
I remember a set of Firestone tires I once owned. After less than a thousand miles they de-laminated-in fact this was happening to many people who bought the same tires. I did not call them Ohio Bombs or American Bombs, no they were Firestone Tires. China is not responsible for your tires blowing out. The Chinese people are not responsible. It the company that designed and manufactured the tires are who responsible. Many fine quality products are manufactured in China by skilled tradespeople lets stop this anti Chinese sentiment it hurts too may good people.
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04-19-2021, 01:02 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Ontario, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upflying
Yesterday I was S/B SR 99 in the Lodi area when I felt a tug and heard an explosion along with smoke and debris visible in my mirrors. I hurried to a stop on the right shoulder and discovered one of my Castle Rock tires had let go. 2 yr old trailer with perhaps 2500 miles on them. Checked pressure at 65psi before I left. OAT was 85F and I was traveling at 65mph.
I will be looking for a pair of Goodyear Endurance tires in the SF Bay Area tomorrow.
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I highly recommend that you find yourself in America's tire store or discount tire they are the same chain they are in many states and they are computerized and honor their warranties and their service agreements.
I took the company line and thought wow China bombs that's a bad handle. If I just keep my pressures right my temperature is right and wheel covers on I should be fine. I got less than 2 years I think and about 10,000 miles with no evident wear on the tread at all when bubbles started forming and tires started blowing up on me.
Or should I say a tire blew up and when I got to the shop to replace it America's tire pointed out the bubbles on a couple of others. The sidewalls were just delaminating for no good reason.
I was saved from any damage by my TPMS. It alarmed before the tire even was flat. My wife was driving I yelled stop the tire we blew a tire. She got slowed down enough that we could limp it another 150 yards to a good siding to pull off on. Tire was destroyed rim was fine no damage to the trailer. Thank you TPMS
So I'm back on team China bombs. SUCK. China bombs are the crap the factory buys DOT approval or not. TOTAL CRAP.
The only two I found that I've been happy with have been good year endurance and Carlisle's and they were about the only two in a load range E for a 15-in wheel so that's what I had. And never had a problem with either of them.
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In Sunny So Cal /w
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04-19-2021, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Colorado
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Just replaced the Castle Rocks on my daughter's 3 year old Rockwood A frame yesterday. Had to convince them that just because the tires had good tread on them, they were still trouble waiting to happen. Now will come the "I've been running them for years without problem guys". All I have to say is "Good luck!"
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04-19-2021, 01:35 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
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More China Bomb booms!
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04-19-2021, 01:40 PM
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"Curmudgeon"
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Zebulon, NC, NC
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Been there done that with both Chinese and Indonesian tires. I've got MAXXIS on right now and they have been great so far. I will say that many problems are "pilot error". My favorite error is upgrading from load range C to load range E without upgrading the stems. Boom!
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04-19-2021, 02:58 PM
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ARLO
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: N Chili, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asr524
I only ask since I seem to have read before that E range Castle Rocks seem to fair better than the range D
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The best use for Castle Rock tires is hanging off a boat dock.
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04-19-2021, 03:17 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Near Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homebrew
Tires just don’t blow up without low pressure or tire temperature rise. The OP must have had a slow leak ,low pressure or over loaded which caused the blow out. A TPMS could have saved a lot of this damage including the tire.
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Road hazard would also cause a blow out without a TPMS saving the day. It takes my TPMS almost 2 seconds, before it registers any of the high/low parameters set; by then the damage has been done.
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