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Old 03-22-2015, 05:29 PM   #1
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Ever seen a spindle like this one ?

I decided to pull the wheels and drums this weekend to check the bearings and brakes. We purchased this 2 year old trailer a couple months back used from a local dealer who said they serviced the bearings and brakes as part of their inspection program. You think they would have mentioned one of the spindles looked different.
All I can say is wow ! I've never seen a spindle look like this before.
It appears to seal as the brake area was dry and the bearings appear to be ok. It does not look like the bearings spun so I have no clue what could cause this. I wonder if it came from the factory like this.
The other side is normal.

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Old 03-22-2015, 05:34 PM   #2
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OH brother!

That looks like someone lost a bearing and run it for some miles.
Last IMG looks like they cut the inner race off with a grinder.


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Old 03-22-2015, 05:35 PM   #3
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Looks like the brgs have spun at one time and were cut off and the spindle smoothed and new brgs installed. Luckily the seal surface was not damaged.
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Old 03-22-2015, 05:37 PM   #4
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Holy S--T, you are not going to leave that in place and use it are you?
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Old 03-22-2015, 05:43 PM   #5
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It's already proven it is still good, just doesn't look good. I wouldn't be afraid of it. Wouldn't like it, but would still use it.
Doesn't look like a replaceable spindle either with the EZ lube drilling.
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Old 03-22-2015, 05:55 PM   #6
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I would be right back to that dealer and insist he have the same tech. that "serviced" it then pull it back apart and see what they have to say for themselves. But that's just me.
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Old 03-22-2015, 07:46 PM   #7
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I did not think of someone doing a repair like that .
I knocked the races out and trial fit them since I have new ones coming. It's not a perfect fit. I also looked at how close the seal is to all the damage and it is surprising it was holding grease in. So I'm going to replace this axle, Question, this is an Al-Ko easylube axle and on it I found a part #402721AD which I suppose is worthless and a code 76/57BM HF. Since the center of the spring mounts is 57" is the other number (76) the Track Length ? This is for a Coachman 16FB that we bought to see if we liked trailers enough to consider buying a larger truck and trailer later on. So far it's been a learning experience on why we will never deal with a certain dealership. I had just removed the axle so I could weld new perches on it and mount it to the bottom of the springs. Wish I had pulled the brake drums first as I would have saved the new perches and my welding time.
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Old 03-22-2015, 08:14 PM   #8
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I saw something similar on a 48 ford coupe once, but it had been sitting for years. Probably parked like that.
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Old 03-22-2015, 08:27 PM   #9
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You can find new axles with new drums and springs all set up for under $200.00, 2 gel filled connectors and you are good to go.I picked up an axle paid $170.00 a couple weeks ago, direct bolt up.
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Old 03-22-2015, 08:34 PM   #10
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The last pic shows damage to the seal land area. A double lip seal was prolly why he prevailed with no issues. In a traditional bearing pack, the seal acts more like a dust seal than a grease seal, in that the grease has no tendency to force its way out. The rough land does like to chew seals though. The lands for the bearings should be tight and not allow the bearing to rock to be passable. The thrust land for the inner bearing should have no high spots. It looks like they butchered it pretty good getting the races off, but did a pretty good job cleaning it up. OC is right in his posting IMHO. I done emergency repairs like this before. The 76 may be hub face or overall tip to tip. Ive ordered axles with hub face, tip to tip, or backingplate flange dimensions...just get the bearing numbers.
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Old 03-22-2015, 08:37 PM   #11
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That's definitely a get it together to get you home repair... Been there, done that, twice... Honestly, a replacement axle is cheap enough. Around $100 naked if you already have bearing sets coming and brakes and hub drums good. Wouldn't think twice about the tiny investment for peace of mind personally. Find your local trailer shop to order and buy without highway robbery.
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Old 03-22-2015, 09:02 PM   #12
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Old 03-22-2015, 10:31 PM   #13
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Well the OC and me could prolly run it, but ANYBODY less frugal would replace it. LOL...
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:46 PM   #14
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Of course its not common so I need to order it. Al Ko could build a bare axle for $96 but shipping almost triples the price. So I'm checking the local dealers for a price. Its a 3500 lb axle 76 hubface 57 spring center with ez lube. Eastern marine has the size but list it with a spring center of 58-66. The person I spoke to there said if I set it at 57 the warranty is void.
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My suggestion would be to check with a trailer builder in your area, someone that builds trailers can fab an axle up that would meet or exceed builders specifications.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:41 PM   #16
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my vendor stocks them in 2 inch increments. I just get longer or shorter to fit, and weld my pads...
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:44 PM   #17
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This place is close no?
http://www.erbtrailer.com/index.html

Or here in Sarasota.

http://www.trailerdepotofsarasota.com/
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The important dimensions are where the lip seal is, the radius on the shaft for the back of the inboard bearing and the diameter of the shaft where the bearings run. Until those are checked you don't know how well the bearings would run. That lip seal area is damaged and may damage a new (double lip) seal. There is a thin sleeve called 'Speedy Sleeve" available at bearing distributors that fits over the seal area and provide a smooth place for the seal to run.

IMO, the dealer shafted you and should replace that axle. If it were mine I would replace the axle
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:11 AM   #19
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New axle ordered and should be here in the next couple weeks. I showed the axle to a guy at one of the trailer places . After running his hands over it he was amazed it held up for more than a couple miles.
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