GVWR and cargo capacity

[squiddy]

I just picked up a 2016 Wildwood 27DBUD last weekend and am having a heck of a time getting some info from the dealer.

My issue is with the GVWR and how much cargo I can carry. There is a sticker on the outside, that says one thing, and a nameplate sticker on the inside that says something else. Photos are attached. Which one can I go by? One says my GVWR is 7785lbs, and the other says 10945lbs.

I'm also wondering how much weight the bumper can carry. I'd like to add a bumper hitch with a carrying rack to carry a generator, fuel, tote etc.

[ilmor]

Hard to read the pics but I believe you should go by the yellow sticker. As for the bumper I recommend emailing the manufacturer. You can do that from the contacts page on the website.

[TURBS]

You can add zero lbs to the bumper.
And DEFINITELY not a bike rack.


2015 Columbus 320RS
2008 2500HD Duramax
2015 nights camped "34"
2016 nights camped "22"

[clr]

the current standard method of doing the yellow stickers is as follows. Outside by the tire stickers you will find the GVW rating and the CCC or cargo carrying capacity. On the main door jamb or will find the weight of the unit when it left the factory.

[RollingDownTheHighway]

one can be the "dry weight" and one is the GVW when loaded up. I go by the yellow on my TT, however, the site has a dry weight of #6098, but it depends what options the dealer ordered. That can determine the "dry"

[nomad297]

Your interior spec sheet is wrong. It states that you have C rated tires and the outside sticker states you have D rated tires. What rating tires do you really have? Forest River needs to provide you with a new sticker for inside.

Bruce

[squiddy]

Thanks for the responses guys. I will email the manufacturer re a new spec sheet, and the bumper rating. They make bumper hitches and I've seen trailers with utility and bike racks mounted. I will also check what rating the tires are.

[Mr Havercamp]

Originally Posted by squiddy

Thanks for the responses guys. I will email the manufacturer re a new spec sheet, and the bumper rating. They make bumper hitches and I've seen trailers with utility and bike racks mounted. I will also check what rating the tires are.

Squiddy, the yellow sticker is the official GVWR. If it has a weight sticker stating weight it left the factory that may be accurate for an unloaded weight, maybe not.

When someone tells me something can't be done I find a way it can. I have the Curt bracket in your picture on my Roo mounted tube on top. I am confident in the bumper and the attachment used. I have also hauled a full 60qt cooler on this setup as well. This same bracket and rack have now been on 3 different hybrid trailers. I have yet to rip off a bumper, bend a frame, void a warranty, or cause the apocalypse.

You need to be able to, or have someone who is able if you're not, evaluate the connection, welds, main frame rail construction, and thickness/gauge of the bumper tube along with the weight you intend to carry. You may have to add some reinforcement. Some add a full blown receiver hitch A little common sense helps also.

[lbrjet]

Double check that you have D rated tires and 5K axles(crawl under the trailer and look). Wouldn't be the first time a yellow sticker is wrong.


2010 F250 5.4L 3.73
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equal-i-zer 4pt 12K

[davel1971]

I have a hard time believing you would be able to haul over 4000 lbs of cargo in a 6000 lb trailer. No way that is right.

[emm-dee]

The axles are probably 5,200 pound rated. However, the 5,080 rating on the main sticker is due to the D rated tires (2,540 pounds each). FR de-rated the axles to match the tire capacity. Same thing on my TT.

As far as all the numbers, only two of them mean anything real. The maximum trailer weight is 10,945 pounds and the max axle weight is 5,080 each. You will have to go to a CAT scale to get the real operating weight weight for YOUR trailer. Once you have that then subtract that number from 10,945 to find out how much stuff (weight) you can put in the trailer. The CAT scale will give you the actual loaded weight for each axle and it's going to be almost impossible to put enough stuff in the TT to exceed that.

[B and B]

The yellow sticker is incorrect. No way you can hall that much weight, The Inside sticker is correct for the weight of the trailer. Dealer should fix this for you.

[emm-dee]

Originally Posted by B and B

The yellow sticker is incorrect. No way you can hall that much weight, The Inside sticker is correct for the weight of the trailer. Dealer should fix this for you.

The yellow sticker doesn't show maximum weight, only the empty weight, which is correct plus or minus a couple hundred pounds. The white sticker is the "legal" thing stating the max weight is 10,945. So, if the yellow sticker says 6,800 (really hard to read) you subtract that # from 10,945 to get 4,145 cargo capacity. The yellow sticker OK. Again, it's hard to read the exact digits but you get the idea.

[Airdale]

Forest River specs for the Wildwood Northwest model #T27DBUD match the specs on your sheet #1. Thus, sheet #2 must be in error and for another model trailer although the model number matches sheet #1, however, the dates on the sheets do not match and sheet #1 is the official date sent to NHTSA. I recommend you send your pictures to FR and let them send you the correct sheet #2 - if they can?

Your real problem in the near futures is tire size. Like a lot of other FR trailers yours has tires that cannot survive very long when you get it full of stuff. You should, as a minimum precaution, go up to the same size in a LRE.

Some trailer manufacturers offer a bumper option for light cargo such as you want to add. Have you asked FR about it?

Here is a picture of an optional bike carrier on another brand trailer. I took the picture at a recent RV show. It was offered as an option.

http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showfull.php?photo=29906

p.s. I see nothing wrong with sheet #1.

[emm-dee]

Originally Posted by Airdale

Forest River specs for the Wildwood Northwest model #T27DBUD match the specs on your sheet #1. Thus, sheet #2 must be in error and for another model trailer although the model number matches sheet #1, however, the dates on the sheets do not match and sheet #1 is the official date sent to NHTSA. I recommend you send your pictures to FR and let them send you the correct sheet #2 - if they can?

Your real problem in the near futures is tire size. Like a lot of other FR trailers yours has tires that cannot survive very long when you get it full of stuff. You should, as a minimum precaution, go up to the same size in a LRE.

Some trailer manufacturers offer a bumper option for light cargo such as you want to add. Have you asked FR about it?

Here is a picture of an optional bike carrier on another brand trailer. I took the picture at a recent RV show. It was offered as an option.

http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showfull.php?photo=29906

p.s. I see nothing wrong with sheet #1.

It probably has the LionsHead Vail Sport tires. Easily replaceable with the Maxxis 8008 E-load.

[Mr Havercamp]

Originally Posted by emm-dee

The yellow sticker doesn't show maximum weight, only the empty weight, which is correct plus or minus a couple hundred pounds. The white sticker is the "legal" thing stating the max weight is 10,945. So, if the yellow sticker says 6,800 (really hard to read) you subtract that # from 10,945 to get 4,145 cargo capacity. The yellow sticker OK. Again, it's hard to read the exact digits but you get the idea.

Yes, top sticker...ooops......... by habit I always call the white federal sticker in his post the yellow sticker. On the other trailers we had the federal sticker was always yellow, at least the top section of it. Isn't it supposed to be?

The yellow cargo sticker below it says 583 lbs for water? Either the tank is 70 gallons instead of the advertised 40, or the water is exceptionally heavy as about 15 lbs a gallon.

[CaptnJohn]

Originally Posted by Airdale

Some trailer manufacturers offer a bumper option for light cargo such as you want to add. Have you asked FR about it?

Here is a picture of an optional bike carrier on another brand trailer. I took the picture at a recent RV show. It was offered as an option.

http://www.irv2.com/photopost/showfull.php?photo=29906

p.s. I see nothing wrong with sheet #1.

The bike carrier and tray in your photo is standard on my 5er. It is stamped into it, no label to come off, 200# limit. I have never used mine as that extra 2' +/- behind the bumper would seem prone to dragging.

[Ian Walker]

eTrailer.com sells a shelf which can be mounted over the propane tanks. However that
adds pounds to your tongue weight so you have to know what your margin of safety is. My MiniLite weighs 4800 pounds. My truck (2010 Toyota Tundra 5.7L with tow package) can tow 11,300 pounds.