Patch or replace

[MR.M]

Brand new goodyr endurance only 6 mos old and about 3500 miles . pulled into a rv park in mississippi set up for the night and noticed one tire looked just a little low by morning all most flat . Pulled wheel and used a soap solution and found a small nail in the center between the ribs . pulled it out and though about a plug but did not want to damage the cords . so just put the spare on and went to my stop in Mo where i will be for 3 weeks . filled the tire this morning just to help find the leak and even after pulling the nail out it had air and lost almost none assume it's just a very small hole . Will a inside patch be good enough or should I replace .

[A32Deuce]

That's how I have them fixed. Plugs are only temp. Inside patch is the best way.

[HangDiver]

Patch it and go..

[rsdata]

small hole? you can salvage the tire with an inside patch and make it 100% IMO

[MR.M]

Thanks . I'm thinking the same . had a shop here wanting to put in a plug patch from the inside but i declined as i think just a patch is the best . put the patched one on the spare and get a new one .

[TitanMike]

Originally Posted by MR.M

Thanks . I'm thinking the same . had a shop here wanting to put in a plug patch from the inside but i declined as i think just a patch is the best . put the patched one on the spare and get a new one .

Actually, the combination patch/plug is considered the ideal method by tire mfrs. The patch portion seals the inner liner to prevent air leakage and the plug portion seals the puncture "path" through the body/belt/tread area to prevent water and "grit" from entering the carcass and causing eventual failure.

A "Patch/Plug" is a totally different animal than just a plug which is usually just a piece of "rope" coated with some gummy substance. Many tire shops use them because they don't require dismounting the tire. Quick and cheap.

The Patch/Plug requires that the tire be dismounted and installed from the inside. This allows inspection of the tires inside for possible damage.

If one does have to repair a tire using a plug, it would be a wise move to take the tire to a tire shop and at the very minimum have them cut the plug flush on the inside of the tire and install a regular patch over the plug.

Unless the rules have changed since I retired from the industry any puncture in the tread area can be repaired if it is less than 1/4" in diameter (larger for some truck tires).


FWIW, I haven't had many flat tires in my years of driving but when I have I've either repaired them myself (I had at one time 520 tire stores at my disposal ) or had the shop repair them using the Patch/Plug method and NEVER had a single one fail before I wore the tires out and replaced.

[BarabooBob]

I would have a plug/patch installed on the inside also. I have had a few tires patched this way without problems. Plugs alone are just temporary repairs and should not be used long term.

[flyflotrtim]

Originally Posted by BarabooBob

I would have a plug/patch installed on the inside also. I have had a few tires patched this way without problems. Plugs alone are just temporary repairs and should not be used long term.

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[bikendan]

I just had a big screw go in one of my 2 month old Michelin Defenders. They plugged and patched it.

[MR.M]

Originally Posted by TitanMike

Actually, the combination patch/plug is considered the ideal method by tire mfrs. The patch portion seals the inner liner to prevent air leakage and the plug portion seals the puncture "path" through the body/belt/tread area to prevent water and "grit" from entering the carcass and causing eventual failure.

A "Patch/Plug" is a totally different animal than just a plug which is usually just a piece of "rope" coated with some gummy substance. Many tire shops use them because they don't require dismounting the tire. Quick and cheap.

The Patch/Plug requires that the tire be dismounted and installed from the inside. This allows inspection of the tires inside for possible damage.

If one does have to repair a tire using a plug, it would be a wise move to take the tire to a tire shop and at the very minimum have them cut the plug flush on the inside of the tire and install a regular patch over the plug.

Unless the rules have changed since I retired from the industry any puncture in the tread area can be repaired if it is less than 1/4" in diameter (larger for some truck tires).


FWIW, I haven't had many flat tires in my years of driving but when I have I've either repaired them myself (I had at one time 520 tire stores at my disposal ) or had the shop repair them using the Patch/Plug method and NEVER had a single one fail before I wore the tires out and replaced.

I'll reconsider . thought with the plug /patch they would ream the hole out making things worse . I know this was all done from the inside and thought just a inner patch was what was in order .

[MR.M]

Well bit the bullet and bought another GY . installed that on my wheel and the other one i has patched and am using it for the spare since it's only 6 mos old . the hole from the nail was minuscule barely a pic prick but enough when under weight to allow air out . the last 2 days the tire held all it's air sitting in the back of the truck . hope no more nails or other sticky things that poke tires