Reinforcing the frame to to a trailer?

[szabla]

I have a 2015 surveyor 274 bhss. I already know if I do anything to the frame it will not have a warranty on it.

My question, in order to put a hitch on the rear, what part of the frame needs to be reinforced to handle pulling a 12 ft trailer with either snowmobiles on it or motorcycles on it?
When I bought it, the salesman said it just needed to be welded to the frame.
I don't think he has a clue.

[whatsupchuck]

Advice to not even remove spare tire and carrier and replacing same with a bike rack would do the same. I have a V-Nose, but, same thing applies to the frame. One would assume that from what is discussed, the center where the axles are attached would flex and crack, OR, wall, doors, windows etc. would fail.

I'll try to follow and see what comes on this one.

[youroo]

Originally Posted by szabla

I have a 2015 surveyor 274 bhss. I already know if I do anything to the frame it will not have a warranty on it.

My question, in order to put a hitch on the rear, what part of the frame needs to be reinforced to handle pulling a 12 ft trailer with either snowmobiles on it or motorcycles on it?
When I bought it, the salesman said it just needed to be welded to the frame.
I don't think he has a clue.

You made this Easy,(What part of the frame needs reinforced)? The answer is (Front to Back)! I have a 12' Snowmobile trailer,and a Lite weight trailer/Frame! With 2 snowmobiles on a 12' trailer behind your unit is (Death Trap/NUTS/Goofy/Crazy) just like the Salesman! Youroo!!

[accumack]

Where do plan on driving as some states do not allow triple towing?

[szabla]

I was looking at replacing the substructure with a 2" x 6" 3/16 steel box to raise the trailer 6 inches, I would also put in cross braces to strengthen that section. I am also going to add shocks and longer leafs. I have some concerns about the trailer hitting the truck bed sides. I seen how weak the leaf hanger look already.
My concern is up front where the right angles connect to the 5th wheel hitch connects. I believe there was a previous recall on weak welds upfront on a 5th wheel.
My normal is in rocky mountains National forest and the roads not all paved. My camping is on uneven ground 98% of the time.

[accumack]

These links may help you. I triple towed until I hit the West Coast.
http://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguide...ple_towing.php

Towing World Official Website

[whatsupchuck]

You must really like the floor plan or something else.

That's a major rebuild and not a MOD / so to speak. I'm thinking I under bought now.

Triples are legal in Texas and other states but have length limits. OH! Also only applies to 5th wheels RVs and not conventional.

[bikendan]

Surveyor is an ultralight trailer, with an ultralight frame.

if you wanted to do what you want and take it where you are saying you want to, you picked the wrong kind of trailer.

the amount of stress and abuse you're talking about, is just asking for bigtime problems for an ultralight.

you should have bought a trailer with a more robust frame. but it would've weighed a lot more.

like a toyhauler.

[youroo]

Originally Posted by accumack

Where do plan on driving as some states do not allow triple towing?

How is Towing (2) units Triple? Youroo!!

[accumack]

That is what they they call it I don't know why. Maybe because there are 3 pieces.

[TURBS]

Good luck, you'll need it.

[PhoneDude 8289]

Originally Posted by szabla

I have a 2015 surveyor 274 bhss. I already know if I do anything to the frame it will not have a warranty on it.

My question, in order to put a hitch on the rear, what part of the frame needs to be reinforced to handle pulling a 12 ft trailer with either snowmobiles on it or motorcycles on it?
When I bought it, the salesman said it just needed to be welded to the frame.
I don't think he has a clue.

Time to trade for a heavier unit.

[TURBS]

Here's a heavier unit.
It didn't fair so well either.

[whatsupchuck]

I forgot this isn't Australia yet with trailer trains. Leave it to Mexico and it would be.

Give me 40 acres and I'll turn this thing around.

[SuicideSaints]

You want to tow a 12 foot trailer behind a 32 foot ultra light frame on uneven ground????? The most notorious thread around here is one of the ones Turbs posted where a guy towed an 8 foot trailer with a single golf cart behind his (he had a heavier frame than you) and his frame buckeled and cracked.

Good luck and even if you "beef" it up this is not a mod this is a complete frame rebuild and it still isn't guaranteed to work. I'd look into a toy hauler for something like this.

[TURBS]

This ?

Frame pictures a few posts up

[SuicideSaints]

Originally Posted by TURBS

This ?
Attachment 94890
Frame pictures a few posts up

Thats the one I remember, I thought the trailer was longer but that look like 5 foot. I remember him bragging about how well it did, then the thread where his frame was jacked came later......

[szabla]

It sounds like I should take the wheels off of the trailer and put it on a goose neck heavy equipment trailer.
I get the message, "don't do it" and get a toy hauler.
Thanks all.

[Iwritecode]

Originally Posted by szabla

It sounds like I should take the wheels off of the trailer and put it on a goose neck heavy equipment trailer.

You wouldn't be the first.

[szabla]

Yes that sounds like a plan that I can live with.
I already found a few that were pretty cheap.