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Old 02-23-2017, 10:47 AM   #1
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Sailun to Maxxis, 16 vs. 17.5 Tire Size Compares and Visuals

I am considering a wheel and tire change. One of my concerns has been trailer height since my 2016 GMC 2500 is so tall, it can be a pain to try to adjust the hitch to get level. Web site tire compare lets you try out different sizes also Sailun's site has the tire specs. The attached PDF file has screen capture of the specs and the compares for 235/80R16 to 235/85R16 and to 215/75R17.5

The 215's are 1/2 inch lower. The 235's are 9/10in. taller. From a tread perspective the 215's have 16/32" tread compared to 10/32" on the 235/80s.
215's can run at 125psi while 235's run at 110psi.

Anyway, see the attached PDF. The visuals are nice I think.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:29 PM   #2
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That's good stuff. I banked on that 1/2" difference because my old 16" tires were so ridiculously tight. But, from a height perspective- I would be impressed if you could tell a difference.
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:25 PM   #3
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I am considering a wheel and tire change...
The 215's are 1/2 inch lower. The 235's are 9/10in. taller. From a tread perspective the 215's have 16/32" tread compared to 10/32" on the 235/80s.
215's can run at 125psi while 235's run at 110psi.
UPDATE: Now it looks like my biggest issue will be lug count. I did not find any 17.5 wheels with 6 lugs, saw many 17.5 wheels both steel and aluminum but all of them were 8 lug and my Wildcat has 6 lug wheel hubs.

I can still do the Sailun S637T 235/80/R16 either by running them at 80psi on my current HiSpec Series 9 wheels or changing to a 6 lug HD wheel that supports 110 psi. It just looks like 17.5's are SOL for this rig.
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UPDATE: Now it looks like my biggest issue will be lug count. I did not find any 17.5 wheels with 6 lugs, saw many 17.5 wheels both steel and aluminum but all of them were 8 lug and my Wildcat has 6 lug wheel hubs.



I can still do the Sailun S637T 235/80/R16 either by running them at 80psi on my current HiSpec Series 9 wheels or changing to a 6 lug HD wheel that supports 110 psi. It just looks like 17.5's are SOL for this rig.

As far as I know, there are no 17.5" wheels with 6-lugs.
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Old 02-25-2017, 05:47 PM   #5
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Not being critical bit but looks like you will gain less than 3/8" (30.8-30.2)/2 = .3 inches. Does that benefit enough to buy tires and wheel and get you level. Also based on my very limited experience are your current wheels rated to 110 psi for the tires you have. I think 6 hole 16" wheels are used on 6000 lb axles which use e rated tires that operate at 80 psi.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:27 PM   #6
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Not being critical bit but looks like you will gain less than 3/8" (30.8-30.2)/2 = .3 inches. Does that benefit enough to buy tires and wheel and get you level. Also based on my very limited experience are your current wheels rated to 110 psi for the tires you have. I think 6 hole 16" wheels are used on 6000 lb axles which use e rated tires that operate at 80 psi.
Thanks for the comment, I don't see it as critical at all. Your example (30.8-30.2) assumes I'm wanting to go lower to get level, not so. My truck is high and a swap to 30.2 makes things worse. Moot point anyway, since there are no 17.5 wheels with 6 lugs.

As to psi wheel rating, my current wheels (HiSpec Series 9, 6 lug) are only rated 80 psi. The Sailun S637T that is the same size as my current Maxxis 8008's is a beefier tire but with the same dimensions (i.e. no change to level). A Sailun change would get me deeper tread (10/32 vs. 9/32), higher ply rating (14 vs 10) and a higher speed rating (75mph vs. 65mph), however I would have to run them at 80psi (not their max 110psi). I checked with Sailun and they sent me their applicable load inflation chart that indicates running their S637T at 80psi is acceptable. The only caveat is that at 80psi it is an 'E' class tire with load capacity basically the same as my OEM Maxxis 8008.

Lastly, changing from a 235/80 to a 235/85 would yield a taller tire but because the diameter is 9/10in. greater, when you look at the gap between the tires on the two axles, taking away .9 x 2 or 1.8in is unacceptable because the tires on each side would be too close together. So for my axle placement, a change to 85's is not in the cards.

In the end for me, its keep the same wheels and just decide between staying with Maxxis or moving to same size Sailuns running at less than max psi.
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:59 PM   #7
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I agree with your assesment of the wheels. I run G614s on same wheels but I keep pressure at 90 as my loading is only about 2500 lbs/tire. Also at 30.8 diameter I only have 2 inches between tires so could not go bigger without moving axles. I went through same issue with my new 2500hd. Had to raise hitch to get bed clearance from 3 1/3 to 5 inches which raise 5r from level to high in front. Use Timbrens for loading which does not help. Have decided to leave as is.
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