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07-09-2014, 10:37 PM
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So much for new tires!
Heading out today to Michigan from Chicago and had two new Goodyear Marathon ST trailer tires blow out on me. Purchased them last July at a Walmart in Arkansas. Couldn't have more than 1,200 miles on them. It's a shame they're made in China. The whole tread just peeled off.
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07-09-2014, 10:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Offagain
Heading out today to Michigan from Chicago and had two new Goodyear Marathon ST trailer tires blow out on me. Purchased them last July at a Walmart in Arkansas. Couldn't have more than 1,200 miles on them. It's a shame they're made in China. The whole tread just peeled off.
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I bought 4 just before our trip to Destin. I just put 1900 miles on them and inspected them at every fillup. No sign of issue so far. I also purchased the warranty on them if I see any sign of issues they will be returned.
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07-09-2014, 11:01 PM
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I didn't get any hazzard warranty on them when purchased at Walmart. I inspected them this afternoon and checked air pressure. All was good.
I had read on here in the past that others were having trouble with them. There really is no other choice that I'm aware of. Well there is, but it's some obscure brand.
Kept the old tires. I'm going to try and talk to Goodyear or Walmart to let them know. Don't think they're going to do anything for me, but you never know.
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07-10-2014, 06:33 AM
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I decided against the Goodyears after reading so much about them. I purchased Carlisle Radial Trail RH's from Discount Tire for my camper from brand new. This is the second trailer with them and I have to say I am very satisfied with them. The Carlisle website said the RH's were redesigned recently and my guy at Discount tire agreed that the new tires were significantly better than the old design. Be sure to check the manufacture date on your new tires as well. I have close to 3000 miles on them since April and they look excellent so far. I hope this may give you another option.
The link:
Carlisle Transportation Products
Where are you headed in Michigan?
Its also nice to see a fellow vanner on here as well! Cheers!
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07-10-2014, 06:42 AM
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Thousands of miles on our Marathons and still going strong.
These tires will "age out" before they wear out (provided I don't hit something).
Will get new ones when these are done.
Sorry to hear about your tread separation.
Were they under inflated for the actual load?
Who installed them and what pressure was used?
When was the camper last weighed?
Where were they installed?
I assume you bought 4 new ones; were both on same axle or on same side?
Did you hit something in the road? Curb strike?
Lots of missing info here.
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07-10-2014, 06:44 AM
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In my humble opinion ST tires are like buying import fireworks, at some point in time they are all going to blow up.
However with fireworks if they fail to blow up they are referred to as a "Dud", and with the tires, if they fail to blow up they are called recommended. But in the end I will refer you back to my opening sentence of this post.
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07-10-2014, 06:47 AM
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I sure wish those Goodyear tires were made like they used to be. I bought a used trailer back around `95 (a Layton 2250), and put new Marathons on it immediately.
Now I know it wasn`t that heavy a trailer (3700 dry), but it got towed a lot. Numerous trips to the Black Hills and ND badlands (maybe 11 times), all through western Canada, Montana, Minnesota. etc.
Never had an issue, never had a flat, never put the spare on.
They were still on the trailer when I delivered it to its new owners last Friday.
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07-10-2014, 06:51 AM
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Sorry to hear that. Just put lrD marathons on mine. Never had a problem with em in the past. Tried to buy road Hazard wty at Walmart. They will not sell it on ST tires. My date is 1614. Glad about that.
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07-10-2014, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dcheatwood
Sorry to hear that. Just put lrD marathons on mine. Never had a problem with em in the past. Tried to buy road Hazard wty at Walmart. They will not sell it on ST tires. My date is 1614. Glad about that.
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Trailer tires do get abused especially by infrequent users who sometimes "forget" the camper is back there and turn short pulling out onto roads.
Most places won't sell you road hazard on LT tires either, if being installed on a trailer.
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07-10-2014, 07:08 AM
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Discount Tire sold me full road hazard on my Carlisles. I was glad for that.
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07-10-2014, 07:24 AM
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Headed to Covert Michigan. That will be our base. From there going to hit Sauatuck,St.Joe,Kalamazoo for the air zoo and another town around here whose name escapes me right now.
Camper has never been weighed. Mfg shows it with a dry weight of around 4,700lbs. Not much in it besides food and toiletries. We travel lite.
4 new Goodyear Marathons replaced 07/26/13 at a Walmart in Pelham,Arkansas. Both tires were on the same side. All tires had air pressure checked that morning. One of the tires had the tread completely separate and come off of the casing. The other just went flat for some unknown reason.
Heard the "pop", and tried to get to the shoulder as quickly as possible. The one tire was just destroyed and even had metal belts coming out of the sidewall. Tire number 2 was still holding air, but quickly went flat as I pulled to the shoulder to investigate.
I kept the tires. I will post pics in a little while. Laying in the unit still. Family still out cold.
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07-10-2014, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devilscreekw
I sure wish those Goodyear tires were made like they used to be. I bought a used trailer back around `95 (a Layton 2250), and put new Marathons on it immediately.
Now I know it wasn`t that heavy a trailer (3700 dry), but it got towed a lot. Numerous trips to the Black Hills and ND badlands (maybe 11 times), all through western Canada, Montana, Minnesota. etc.
Never had an issue, never had a flat, never put the spare on.
They were still on the trailer when I delivered it to its new owners last Friday.
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I replaced my old Goodyear Marathons that had been on the camper since 2007. No problems.
I had them all replaced in Arkansas while traveling because one had developed a pin hole leak in the sidewall while stopped overnight at a beautiful state park in Pelham.
Up to that point, the Goodyears gave me no issues.
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07-10-2014, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Offagain
Headed to Covert Michigan. That will be our base. From there going to hit Sauatuck,St.Joe,Kalamazoo for the air zoo and another town around here whose name escapes me right now.
Camper has never been weighed. Mfg shows it with a dry weight of around 4,700lbs. Not much in it besides food and toiletries. We travel lite.
4 new Goodyear Marathons replaced 07/26/13 at a Walmart in Pelham,Arkansas. Both tires were on the same side. All tires had air pressure checked that morning. One of the tires had the tread completely separate and come off of the casing. The other just went flat for some unknown reason.
Heard the "pop", and tried to get to the shoulder as quickly as possible. The one tire was just destroyed and even had metal belts coming out of the sidewall. Tire number 2 was still holding air, but quickly went flat as I pulled to the shoulder to investigate.
I kept the tires. I will post pics in a little while. Laying in the unit still. Family still out cold.
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A photo of any tread wear pattern would help to diagnose if it is weight/pressure related; but it sounds more like a pothole/curb strike by the moment. Without shocks, the tires take ALL the abuse of bad roads. This winter has been horrible.
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07-10-2014, 07:44 AM
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The fact that they both failed at the same time, on the same side is a bit telling.
btw - you should hit South Haven while you are over there. Very nice.
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07-10-2014, 07:59 AM
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The fact that they both failed at the same time, on the same side is a bit telling.
btw - you should hit South Haven while you are over there. Very nice.
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I'll post pics in a bit.
The highway was bad in spots. You couldn't avoid some of them. This winter was brutal on the roads.
South Haven is the town I couldn't remember. Will be hitting that as well.
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07-10-2014, 09:30 AM
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07-10-2014, 10:04 AM
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Sure appears to be failures due to a road hazard rather than defective tires. JMO.
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07-10-2014, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OldCoot
Sure appears to be failures due to a road hazard rather than defective tires. JMO.
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Classic. Sorry Offagain. Stuff happens even to the best of tires.
Sorry for your loss. Your truck's/camper's comprehensive insurance should cover damage to the camper.
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07-10-2014, 06:24 PM
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Didn't really think about calling the insurance company. I was going to try and fix it myself once home.
Not really sure if it was a tire failure now after reading some responses. Either way I have two new tires in their place and my family is safe and we are enjoying our mini vacation.
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07-10-2014, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Offagain
Didn't really think about calling the insurance company. I was going to try and fix it myself once home.
Not really sure if it was a tire failure now after reading some responses. Either way I have two new tires in their place and my family is safe and we are enjoying our mini vacation.
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Since the vehicle was in motion, your collision "might" be the one that pays (your deductible will apply) or your comprehensive (if you have it) if not.
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