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03-02-2021, 04:30 PM
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Breaker keeps tripping.
Hey all, I am new to the camper world.
We just purchased a 1998 36' Cardinal 5th wheel camper. All excited to check it all out and get ready to camp 
I recently installed an outlet, to plug it in at the house.
I flip the power breaker on inside the camper, the lights come on for just a couple seconds, and the breaker flips. I also have a noise I wasn't expecting when I flip it on.
I am hoping that this is something simple. Anyone have any ideas?
I appreciate your thoughts and help in advance.
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03-02-2021, 04:31 PM
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does the noise sound like buzzing?
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03-02-2021, 04:34 PM
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Is your trailer a 30 or 50 amp plug?
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03-02-2021, 04:35 PM
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30 AMP
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03-02-2021, 04:36 PM
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Yes, buzzing/vibration sound.
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03-02-2021, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel R. Harrelson
Yes, buzzing/vibration sound.
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Where is the buzzing noise?
In the house or the trailer?
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03-02-2021, 04:41 PM
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Kanadian Kamper
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Wire like this.......accept no substitutes.
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03-02-2021, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel R. Harrelson
Yes, buzzing/vibration sound.
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There's a short circuit that's what's causing the buzzing. If I was still working with the tools when I showed up at your place I'd ask you where was the last place anyone did any electrical work? Who was the one that put the outlet in for the camper?
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03-02-2021, 04:48 PM
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Your RV receptacle that was installed at the house, is it hook up to 120 AC single pole breaker or 240 AC double pole breaker from the distribution panel?
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03-02-2021, 05:05 PM
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50 amp double pole breaker.
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03-02-2021, 05:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike134
There's a short circuit that's what's causing the buzzing. If I was still working with the tools when I showed up at your place I'd ask you where was the last place anyone did any electrical work? Who was the one that put the outlet in for the camper?
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I did. I ran 6-3 wire from a 50 amp double breaker to the plug box. I had electrical advice, but now I'm starting to wonder.
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03-02-2021, 05:13 PM
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Is your receptacle on your house a 30 amp 3 prong or a 50 amp 4 prong as in post #7?
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03-02-2021, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike134
There's a short circuit that's what's causing the buzzing. If I was still working with the tools when I showed up at your place I'd ask you where was the last place anyone did any electrical work? Who was the one that put the outlet in for the camper?
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Originally Posted by kenandterry
Where is the buzzing noise?
In the house or the trailer?
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In the camper.
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03-02-2021, 05:13 PM
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Unless you have a 50A outlet and are using a 50-30 RV adapter, unplug the camper and do not plug it in until it is fixed.
Do you have a volt meter? Are you comfortably working around live power? Who installed the outlet? A picture of the outlet will help too.
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03-02-2021, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel R. Harrelson
I did. I ran 6-3 wire from a 50 amp double breaker to the plug box. I had electrical advice, but now I'm starting to wonder. |
Not to poke fun but often the most expensive advice is free advice.
If you aren't familiar or comfortable with electricity and 120 vs 240 volt circuits I'd suggest a visit from a licensed electrician who understands RV's.
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03-02-2021, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fonzie
Is your receptacle on your house a 30 amp 3 prong or a 50 amp 4 prong as in post #7?
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30 amp 3 prong.
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03-02-2021, 05:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel R. Harrelson
I did. I ran 6-3 wire from a 50 amp double breaker to the plug box. I had electrical advice, but now I'm starting to wonder. |
Then I assume you used 2 of the 3 wires to the breaker. 1 to common and one to ground.
It should be a 30A single pole with 1 hot to the breaker, 1 to the common and 1 to ground.
How did you wire it to the outlet? As 2 30A RV outlet is only 3 connections. Please post a picture of the outlet.
Don't plug the camper back in until this is resolved and hope for minimal damage
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03-02-2021, 05:19 PM
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Well that is your issue. It should be wired to 120 volts single pole breaker as in post #7. Don't plug your RV anymore until it is rectified and then tackle the trailer after for possible damages to some equipment eg: converter, TV etc etc.
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03-02-2021, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
If you aren't familiar or comfortable with electricity and 120 vs 240 volt circuits I'd suggest a visit from a licensed electrician who understands RV's.
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Good advice except I have seen a number of threads where people hired an electrician that claimed to know what they were doing and it was still wired wrong.
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03-02-2021, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by llr
Good advice except I have seen a number of threads where people hired an electrician that claimed to know what they were doing and it was still wired wrong.
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That's why I included the "familiar with RV's" part.
Like car mechanics, not all electricians are created equal.
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