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Old 10-23-2018, 10:24 AM   #1
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A-frame Acuator Powered Fix $0

Sorry to start another actuator thread. But I felt a DIY solution might be worthy.

In my very 1st post on this isssue (April of 2016) I posted "Wondering if the existing drive mechanism could be connected to a cordless drill?"

Yes it can and finally I did it. And just using spare plumbing parts out of my shop.

This thing lifts the lid in seconds. No strain on my compact drill (which i carry anyways for the stabilizers).

The buckling issue on the rail is still there. I'm convinced it's because the torsion springs are getting weak. I've ordered gas springs described in backpacker3's thread: http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ir-151967.html hoping that will eliminate it.

I have step by instructions if anyone is interested.
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:28 AM   #2
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Nice work Macgyver!
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:27 AM   #3
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I'd love the instructions please. I've replaced mine once within months of getting the camper brand new. If it happens again I'd rather do something like this and not have to worry about it being a continual problem.
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:26 PM   #4
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We are lucky we never stop working -

Good job Oyo!

I am still using the "put it on for up" and then take it off and put it into storage until the next time to go up.

Your work and sharing of know-how is greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-24-2018, 09:23 PM   #5
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What a great idea! I would like a copy of your instructions, please. Thank you so much.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:53 AM   #6
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Good job Oyo!

I am still using the "put it on for up" and then take it off and put it into storage until the next time to go up.

Your work and sharing of know-how is greatly appreciated.
Thanks mickrock. It goes both ways. I just completed the refer fan mod I believe you contributed to.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:29 AM   #7
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*The pictures in this write up are an OEM actuator I managed to rebuild after it crapped out, but never used. The one I modified was a Windy Nation.

*-opened the gear housing (screws on the very bottom)

*-removed all the gears. Make sure to keep the pin for the drive shaft

*-searched for something with a female end that would go over the drive shaft and a male end with threads. I ended up using brass plumbing fittings (3/8" ID) and two nuts. The 1st as a lock nut (should be thinner than example), the 2nd as the driver for your socket.

*-drilled a hole horizontally through the female end of the drive shaft fitting (this was the only thing that required much skill), slid the fitting over the drive shaft and inserted the original pin

*-cut the mounting bracket off the bottom of the gear housing with a hacksaw. It's cast aluminium, pretty easy.

*-drilled a hole where the mounting bracket was, large enough for the new fitting(s). The fittings in this example are larger than what I actually used. Either would work, but you'd have to attach the 1st fitting with the pin, put the housing cover on then thread on the nuts.

*-made a new mounting bracket from a boat bilge plug (rubber bushing) and a U bracket and attached it to the bottom of the gear housing. There's many ways you could do this.

*-attached it to the camper
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:21 AM   #8
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Just a thought.
Would an all-thread (threaded rod) coupling work in place of the fittings you show?

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Old 10-25-2018, 03:29 PM   #9
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Just a thought.
Would an all-thread (threaded rod) coupling work in place of the fittings you show?

Actually it was one of the 1st things I looked at. But I couldn't figure out how to attach it to the drive shaft. Maybe someone will. The neat part about mods is how they evolve.


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Old 10-25-2018, 03:50 PM   #10
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you could cut threads on the drive shaft, but that sounds like a whole lot of extra work and you still need to drill and drive a pin through it. i would be worried that without it, your roof would come crashing down when you go to put it away and that fitting unthreads itself.
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Thank you for the instructions and pics!! I kept my old original actuator so I can play around with that and not worry about screwing up something important.
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Craig,

Would love the directions/parts needed. Alwasy thought the factory motor was inadequate. Thanks.
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Thank you for the instructions and pics!! I kept my old original actuator so I can play around with that and not worry about screwing up something important.
I can't do much better than what I did in post 7 of this thread.
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Trying to get my head around this. When going up with the drill, does it reach its stop point on its own or do you have to be careful and stop short and push it in the last inch. With our electric when it reaches its last stop we always give one more shove to lock it in place.
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Trying to get my head around this. When going up with the drill, does it reach its stop point on its own or do you have to be careful and stop short and push it in the last inch. With our electric when it reaches its last stop we always give one more shove to lock it in place.
Give it a nudge on the actuator side then push the door side the rest of the way. Pretty much like with the motor. I set the clutch on the drill to max just in case it goes too far, but I doubt it could.

There's very little preasure/torque on the drill. The gears in the actuator makes it so.
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OYO, in regards to actuator replacement. I just bought a new one and it came with the solar plug electrical hook up. I have tried to attach old electric to the new..red, to red, neg to neg..but I am not getting any power. I had power before, just a bum motor. Now, new motor and no power. Suggestions for this newbie camper owner? I am trying to attach it on the side, versus going underneath. If I must, I will, but don't know where to start and can't find any wiring guidelines to help. Thanks
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OYO, in regards to actuator replacement. I just bought a new one and it came with the solar plug electrical hook up. I have tried to attach old electric to the new..red, to red, neg to neg..but I am not getting any power. I had power before, just a bum motor. Now, new motor and no power. Suggestions for this newbie camper owner? I am trying to attach it on the side, versus going underneath. If I must, I will, but don't know where to start and can't find any wiring guidelines to help. Thanks
Not sure I understand about the side vs underneath. You should be able to attach a 'solar' plug to the original wire coming out of the wall, plug it in and be set to go.

If that doesn't work I suggest putting a multimeter on the plug coming out if the wall and have an assistant push the actuator switch by the door to see if there is current on the wire coming out of the wall.
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I attached the solar wiring that came with it, though did not find it easy, as the trailer wires are tiny in comparison to the solar wires. Maybe my connections are not good. This is what I have done so far (pic). Not having a helper can be problematic! I pushed the elevate button on the other side and get nothing. When the old one was on, I at least got a grinding sound from the bad motor!Click image for larger version

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I attached the solar wiring that came with it, though did not find it easy, as the trailer wires are tiny in comparison to the solar wires. Maybe my connections are not good. This is what I have done so far (pic). Not having a helper can be problematic! I pushed the elevate button on the other side and get nothing. When the old one was on, I at least got a grinding sound from the bad motor!Attachment 196508


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I suspect your connection is bad or you have a blown fuse. You really need to figure out if you have power to the wires or connect the actuator to another 12v power supply just to see if it works.

Did you try up and down on on the switch?

This thread: http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...nt-156873.html
discusses installing the newer actuator. I have not done so.
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OK. thanks. I will look into both. Let it be a fuse!
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