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Old 11-08-2013, 10:25 AM   #1
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A122BH or A122TH

Hi

New forum couple of two here in Colorado and we are looking to buy our first A frame popup. Initially we were set on an Aliner with the offroad option but a concerns with failings of rear receiver for bike carry and reported weak frame (relative to pulling a camper off the pavement) had us switch our focus to Rockwood.

We are now trying to decide between the A122BH and the A122TH.
We will be bringing bikes on most of our trips.
The BH has the perfect size deck for that but is lacking 5" of clearance which would come in pretty handy in places like Moab.
The TH has more offroad clearance but is 22' long with more deck size than we need.

The salesperson we spoke to at a Rockwood dealership told us repeatedly that the BH height A frames could be lifted but didn't go into details. What would that involve and likely cost?

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Old 11-08-2013, 10:48 AM   #2
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The a122th deck might be to big?
Better to have it and not need it, for now!
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Old 11-08-2013, 10:55 AM   #3
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The a122th deck might be to big?
Better to have it and not need it, for now!
I've had the same thoughts but the flip side of that is that sometimes it's nice to have extra maneuverability with the shorter camper. And of course shorter overhangs work out better in many offroad situations.

Not nearly as much storage room in the A frames compared to my past Fleetwood Evolution offroad popup, though. It's a tough choice.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #4
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Too bad the deck does not fold up and the tongue does not telescope in and out.

Anyway good luck with your selection.

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Old 11-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #5
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I have the TH model & love it! I briefly looked at the BH but TH's beefier frame, ground clearance and deck space sold me for our personal need uses. Keep in mind, the TH will not fit inside the average garage - I have a 3 car garage and unable to fit on either side due to it's length so its taking up real estate inside Hubby's shop. The TH also uses a Class IV hitch, and requires a 2-5/8" ball.

Despite our lack of realizing it wouldnt fit in garage & upon picking it up & unexpectedly buying a new stinger & ball, I love my TH!! The deck space has been awesome - we use for carrying items, to keeping items off muddy/wet ground, to hanging out on deck chairs (like a porch)....haha

My parting advice would be to make sure your tow rig can handle the loaded tongue weight of the TH. Look forward to seeing what you end up with!
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:13 AM   #6
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Thanks!

Stronger frame? I didn't know anything about that. What are the differences which make the 2014 TH frames tougher than the 2014 BH frames?

Great insight on the hitch variance too and I didn't know about it.

Our TV is a 2004 Toyota 4Runner V8 with a 7200lb tow rating. I'll have to look into the other particulars regarding tongue weights.

Yeah, neither the BH or TH will fit in our current garage but the TH won't fit in the 20' outdoor storage space we rented on Saturday either. lol
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:47 PM   #7
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Dealer Locator - it bites

So are there any tricks to finding these campers easier than trying to use the rather lame dealer locator? It only gives you a couple of dealers relatively close to you but not a full dealer list, not even for the state you're in.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:55 PM   #8
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I dunno anything about the 2014 models...I did note that at the time of our purchase, it appeared the TH seemed to have wider/thicker side rails on their frames compared to the other models. When I mentioned this to the salesmen at various dealers we shopped, they told me FR did ise a diff frame due to the heavier anticipated weight these units would carry. The decks have a maximum load capacity of 650 lbs.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:00 PM   #9
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We drove 2+ hrs to a dealer who had our unit. The local dealership had very rude salesmen & I determined that there was NO WAY those jerks were getting my money, I didnt want to feed a jerk when there was a.more deserving sales team to be found. I decided if I couldnt cut a deal with the dealer two hours away, that I would drive 8 hrs to Boise ID for puchase. Luckily, the "closer" dealer was willing to negotiate and matched my terms.

Perhaps you might consider broadening your search to include the Flagstaff brand, which is the sister to the Rockwood (IDENTICAL except for exterior decals & interior color) They are both made by Forest River.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:21 PM   #10
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I like the Rockwood a styling a little better. There is one local dealer but they only have two A122s. They seem nice enough but I'm looking to buy this weekend if I can find what I'm looking for within 5 hours of driving.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:20 PM   #11
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If you order one, note they are going to a tan and black color scheme.
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Old 11-08-2013, 02:32 PM   #12
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Found a couple in white

From what I've been told, the frames are the same for the TH and BH, etc. However, I want that 5" of additional ground clearance right away so I'm looking for the A122TH.

So far I've found a couple for about 13,500 before fees, both in white. I kind of like the tan/black color application better but white will likely be cooler in the hot sun of Moab, etc. We're going to use this more for winter and shoulder seasons but it still gets pretty hot at high elevation in the blazing sun, even in November.

Now I just have to decide which out of area dealer to go to.
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Old 11-08-2013, 05:04 PM   #13
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Taking delivery tomorrow. A white 2014 A122TH. Leaving directly from the dealer for a pretty bare-bones overnight remote camp on the way home.
No point in waiting around. Pics to follow.
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LOL - That didnt take long at all! Congrats! Yay - another TH owner....theres not many of us on here!!
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Glad you found what you wanted. A lot of the campground in Colorado closed the end of October. But we have done some cool weather camping in the A-frame and it is nice.
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congrats on the new camper ... but im thinking ... you cannot flip for extra clearance ...

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Woo hoo!!!!! Congrats from another TH owner!!
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Congrats! We have the TH as well for our motorcycles.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:35 PM   #19
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Nice night just a few hours after picking her up from the dealer.

For a 2014 A112TH we expected the counter-height/flat indoor stove with the folding cover and the small window in the door. We got the old stove and a larger window in the door with ventilation. We're happy about the window and didn't care one way or the other on the stove.



We got a pretty good deal I'd say but the dealer installed the electric jack as an option, which I strongly dislike. I'll be looking at the feasibility and cost of replacing it with a crank style lift with wheel.

The Rockwood pulls almost as nice as my old Fleetwood Evolution. Pretty sure the Evolution had larger tires. The A112TH is a lot more fun to setup and sleep in though. We're super happy and will be getting good use out of this camper.

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CL - Nice homecoming pics! Glad to hear you already enjoyed the ride home. I had the dealer remove the electric jack and replace with the hand crank style before I picked mine up.
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