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07-16-2016, 12:24 PM
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Hardside Subflooring Concern
I know the hardside flooring is made of "Structurwood" OSB (oriented strand board). That doesn't concern me because I used to sell that product when I worked at a building supply company.
My concern is this: When I went to the local Flagstaff dealer, I got down on my knees and looked up underneath the A-frame trailer. You can see the flooring from underneath. It seems to be coated with black sealant or paint of some sort, but you can still see the individual chips of the flooring.
I would think that over time, spray from the tires, salt, mud, etc. would cause the flooring to delaminate.
I was hoping that my fellow campers would be able to shed some light on the matter.
Thank you in advance.
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07-16-2016, 04:53 PM
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I've had my 2012 Flagstaff TH since it was brand new. I am in WA and quite often find myself in rainy windy conditions when taking trips with the A-Frame and boy, have we been on some water soaked pounding rain highway drives. I've noticed any problems with the floor as of yet. I am especially pleased that it has a 25 yr warranty, to me it shows confidence in their product. Normal use shouldn't be an issue.
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07-16-2016, 05:59 PM
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I had the same concern you have when I purchased mine but so far so good. I did have one corner that tended to stay damp for a while after it rained and discovered it was the way the screw holding the corner molding underneath was positioned causing water to run along molding underneath and wetting the corner of floor. I backed out screw a little, which tilted the molding down, so water drips down molding and screw to ground. I also installed mud flaps behind wheels to limit splashing of water,mud, etc. against the underside of floor. Probably not necessary but can't hurt either and didn't take much time or money.
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07-17-2016, 02:26 PM
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The bare nature of the structurewood is to allow moisture to escape from the material. Remember it is covered on top by moisture proof vinyl and it needs to "breathe" on the bottom.
In my reading on various camper forums for years, it is extended periods of wetness from seepage leaks above that cause most problems with structurewood floors.
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07-17-2016, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by handbuilder
I've had my 2012 Flagstaff TH since it was brand new. I am in WA and quite often find myself in rainy windy conditions when taking trips with the A-Frame and boy, have we been on some water soaked pounding rain highway drives. I've noticed any problems with the floor as of yet. I am especially pleased that it has a 25 yr warranty, to me it shows confidence in their product. Normal use shouldn't be an issue.
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Originally Posted by mzak
I had the same concern you have when I purchased mine but so far so good. I did have one corner that tended to stay damp for a while after it rained and discovered it was the way the screw holding the corner molding underneath was positioned causing water to run along molding underneath and wetting the corner of floor. I backed out screw a little, which tilted the molding down, so water drips down molding and screw to ground. I also installed mud flaps behind wheels to limit splashing of water,mud, etc. against the underside of floor. Probably not necessary but can't hurt either and didn't take much time or money.
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Originally Posted by Pooneil
The bare nature of the structurewood is to allow moisture to escape from the material. Remember it is covered on top by moisture proof vinyl and it needs to "breathe" on the bottom.
In my reading on various camper forums for years, it is extended periods of wetness from seepage leaks above that cause most problems with structurewood floors.
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Thank you everyone. I feel somewhat better about the exposed flooring. I have an appointment to visit the FR factory tomorrow. I will ask them what they use to undercoat the flooring. I will have pictures of the new 2017 Hardside interiors. I will also report on any other changes they may be making to the line.
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07-17-2016, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by handbuilder
I am especially pleased that it has a 25 yr warranty, to me it shows confidence in their product. Normal use shouldn't be an issue.
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Handbuilder, I'm familiar with FR's A frames but what 25 year warranty are you referring to?
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07-17-2016, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Handbuilder, I'm familiar with FR's A frames but what 25 year warranty are you referring to?
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Just took delivery on an A212HW. Included in the literature isa sheet from Ainsworth Corp. that the OSB flooring panels are warranted to the OEM and FIRST REGISTERED OWNER for 25 years from the date of manufacture. The parent company is Ainsworth Engineered Canada LP.
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07-17-2016, 08:00 PM
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Hey Dan! Its what TJwoody posted above. (Thank you, TJwoody)
It clearly states it will not cover delam due to flood, standing water, repeated wetting or exposure to high moisture environments. Other stuff like severe service and overload and a few other issues. Owners should read their warranty info and potential buyer should research the types and qualities of engineered OSB. It's not plywood and it's not composite that falls apart. Other brand salesmen love to play up to buyer ignorance and that guillable buyer begins quoting other brand salesman as to FR producing an inferior product with cruddy flooring. I'm in several A-Frame forums and can attest that the floor is the least of problems. So flooring naysayers are simply that. LOL
The fact that FR uses a company that warrants their product to such a high level is awesome. As I've said, I have no issue with my floor and it's been in some pretty gnarly wet adventures.
Tjwoody, be sure you send in all your warranty cards and purchase the additional year of coverage thru FR. It's a small amount for piece of mind.
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