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Old 04-30-2015, 06:05 PM   #21
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Yes, Bikendan, thanks for the clarification. You are right on!

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Old 04-30-2015, 06:50 PM   #22
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Around 16 MPG towing my T21QBHW with a 2014 Ford Expedition 5.4L V-8. The Expedition hardly noticed the trailer....

I just recently "down sized" to a 2015 Ford Explorer Limited with a standard 3.5L V-6 and haven't had a chance to tow with it yet. I suspect that little V-6 is going to get close to, or even lower MPG, when towing than the Expedition. But it gets almost 4MPG better when not towing and that is 90% of the time!
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:28 PM   #23
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RedLdr1, I'll be interested to see what your mileage turns out to be with the Explorer. Sounds like the Expedition's mileage was similar to what I get with my F150. Like you, with my truck, I don't know the trailer is behind me.
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Old 04-30-2015, 07:39 PM   #24
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I suspect I'll know the trailer is behind me now! Downsizing has forced me in to getting a WDH. Even with the OEM Tow Package my Tongue Weight of about 400 pounds requires a WDH. But what I really miss is the integrated brake controller in my Expedition. I just installed a Prodigy P3, and I like it, but I miss the clean look of the OEM controller...
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:11 AM   #25
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Yes, after having had several vehicles, all of which had to have the braking control and wiring installed, it has been a real pleasure to have the F150 with all of that built into it. It sure makes it easier to set and use. It also feels to me like Ford is serious about equipping its trucks for the tasks for which people actually use them.

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My Nissan manual read to not use cruise control while towing?
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:41 PM   #27
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Yes, Cutter that is one school of thought. I've questioned Ford service dept people about this and don't seen to get a consistent answer. It depends on whether or not the transmission does a lot of shifting down and back up with hills. Whenever it's hilly, I never use Cruise but, when the road is relatively flat, the transmission doesn't shift much, if at all. I tolerate one downshift. More than that and it comes out of Cruise. What do others think?
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Old 05-01-2015, 02:03 PM   #28
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I just purchased a 2014 new f 150 with ecoboost/could someone walk me thru setting up factory brake controller for 122s and what I should expect towing mpg ect/ect my jeep trade in got 17/18 mpg but I traded for f150 for room and other reasons/ thanks for any replys
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You have a Tow / Haul mode that adjusts the transmission to compensate / correct for the up and down "hunting" shifting. I normally ran with Tow Haul and my cruise on and did not have any "hunting" problems in any type terrain...
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I just purchased a 2014 new f 150 with ecoboost/could someone walk me thru setting up factory brake controller for 122s and what I should expect towing mpg ect/ect my jeep trade in got 17/18 mpg but I traded for f150 for room and other reasons/ thanks for any replys
The Owners Manual in my Expedition had a real good section on setting up the OEM brake controller to your trailer. Check the Towing Section in your manual. With my T21QBHW, which is a heavy A-Frame, I set the Gain at 5.0 as the starting point. That worked well for me...
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RedLdr1, I usually don't use tow-haul because the weight of the trailer is so small. When I was towing TT's or my 5th wheel, I always used Tow-Haul, but changed when I bought the A122S. I didn't know about tow-haul adjusting for the terrain.

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Kent,

That feature isn't as well described now as it used to be... Here is the info now listed from the 2015 Ford Towing Guide:

Towing On Hills
– Downshift the transmission to assist braking on steep downgrades and to increase power (reduce lugging) when climbing hills
– With TorqShift® transmission, select Tow/Haul Mode to automatically eliminate unwanted gear search when going uphill and help control vehicle speed when going downhill


Driving With An Automatic Overdrive Transmission
With certain automatic overdrive transmissions, towing – especially in hilly areas – may cause excessive shifting between overdrive and the next
lower gear.
– To eliminate this condition and achieve steadier performance, overdrive can be locked out (see vehicle Owner’s Manual)
– If excessive shifting does not occur, use overdrive to optimize fuel economy
– Overdrive may also be locked out to obtain engine braking on downgrades
– When available, select Tow/Haul Mode to automatically eliminate unwanted gear search and help control vehicle speed when going downhill

Hopefully that will help explain what Tow / Haul can do...
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Thanks Wayne!

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Old 05-03-2015, 01:30 PM   #34
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does the factory brake controller on my 2014 f150 come with any gain settings once I hook up my 122s? and from the members that have ecoboost what should I espect in average mpg towing and not towing? I know my right foot controls that a lot.some owners at ford forums says v8 5 0 does beter than ecboost?
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:16 PM   #35
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My F150 has an integrated trailer brake control that enables me to adjust the gain as I drive and feel a need to do so. As for towing mileage, see my post with which I started this thread.

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kdot thanks for mpg info/ I have not towed 122s yet/just wondering if you get a read out when you first hook up? I have a build in brake controller also/I gather I will be getting read outs from f150 driver info center to adjusting gain /up or down/just wanted to know what first hook up said on info center/ any gain reading befor I tow and adjust/thanks again
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Old 05-03-2015, 08:23 PM   #37
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Ridgeline, you will get trailer info on the dashboard trailer information display. It will let you know the number of your gain setting. You will have to judge what feels right to you and adjust the gain accordingly. I've had mine set for our A122S in the 5-6 range depending upon driving conditions and terrain. In the mountains, e.g., I might bump it up a hair to give me a little more braking on the downhills. Hope that helps. I really like the systems built into my Ford for trailering.

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Old 05-03-2015, 09:30 PM   #38
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thanks for info/think I will like ecoboost also/seems to have strong low end power and should not know my a122s is behind me/may have to give up 1or 2 mpg but has much more room than 2014 grand Cherokee I traded in /now back to aframe/only problem I have had was leak while unit was parked with front of trailer to low/raised unit and leak stopped and Velcro on factory screen room peeling off//
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:23 AM   #39
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ridgeline1, I like that ecoboost engine a lot. As you said, I don't even know the trailer is behind me. We got our screen room set up in the driveway, just to familiarize ourselves with it before having to put it up out in the "bush" somewhere. The connecting cable in one of the poles was broken and a new one is on the way. We also found that the white velcro peels off pretty easily. It also looks like crap on the trailer. I found some commercial grade velcro in black. It blends in with the trailer graphics so well that it's hardly noticeable.

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thanks for sharing the info kent/get your camping spots asap/ not many open ones that have all hook ups in southeast //fl has some booked ahead 6 to 9 months/demand has really increased last couple of years/I am in north Carolina//
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