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Old 08-06-2014, 10:33 PM   #1
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Which aframe campers can have the shower/toilet

The manufacturer website is ambiguous regarding which aframe models can have a shower/toilet cassette. The floorplans show only the A194HW with the shower/cassette, whereas the options description states, ambiguously, that shower/cassette depends on floor plan.

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I think you are right, it is only the A194HW that has a shower in the Rockwood line. And of course the corresponding Flagstaff, model T19SCHW.
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The manufacturer website is ambiguous regarding which aframe models can have a shower/toilet cassette. The floorplans show only the A194HW with the shower/cassette, whereas the options description states, ambiguously, that shower/cassette depends on floor plan.

Anyone know?
We have just purchased the 2015 Flagstaff Classic T12TST. It has a cassette potty, but no inside shower. Just the outside shower. I believe the floor plan does decide whether a model has the shower or potty or both. Surprisingly to us, our dealer said the demand for these two items is not all that big. We really enjoy having the potty at least in our new rig.
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Our Rockwood A124 2012 has the shower/toilet combination if your looking for used.
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We have just purchased the 2015 Flagstaff Classic T12TST. It has a cassette potty, but no inside shower.
FR calls that a "Swivel Toilet" on the web site. What do they mean by that?
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The swivel toilet stores sideways and the top half turns 90 degrees for use. I believe it is for additional usable space. I have seen them in other brands of trailers. We have a 194HW and use the toilet, especially at night or when it is raining. Our shower is seldom used.
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The swivel sounds like a good idea relative to the combo, as long as privacy is not in high demand. As much privacy as a curtain provides at any rate. The shower in my old pop up also saw little use. But it was a nice option on a rainy evening after a dirty day.
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Toilet in stow position on T12TST
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Toilet on T12TST for use postition.
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I ordered the A194HW which won't be in until Sept.-Oct. From the looks of the pictures of the swivel toilet in the T12TST, it looks like the shower/cassette doesn't take up much more room. If that's the case, I'm glad I will be getting it--it's better to have it and not use it than need it even if it's "once in a blue moon" (as said above--"on a rainy evening after a dirty day") .

To answer your question--and I, too, think FR's website needs some work done (!!)--I think the Rockwood A194HW and the Flagstaff equivalent are the only a-frames with the shower/cassette package.
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Thanks, Bob
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I ordered the A194HW which won't be in until Sept.-Oct. From the looks of the pictures of the swivel toilet in the T12TST, it looks like the shower/cassette doesn't take up much more room. If that's the case, I'm glad I will be getting it--it's better to have it and not use it than need it even if it's "once in a blue moon" (as said above--"on a rainy evening after a dirty day") .

To answer your question--and I, too, think FR's website needs some work done (!!)--I think the Rockwood A194HW and the Flagstaff equivalent are the only a-frames with the shower/cassette package.
The combo certainly is a good option. I was happy to have it when I did and would be happy to have it now, but ultimately chose a different configuration.

The web site text seems designed to be stable and not incorrect rather than precise. It is infuriating when we are trying to understand options and don't want to go to the dealer when there is no reason to believe the dealer will be any more comprehensive or precise.

We all heard the "salesman bluff" answers to specific question. I have had too many conversations with RV dealers where they told me I was wrong about an aspect of a product when the correct answer was obvious on the product right in front of them.
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Funny story, when my wife & I were looking at different A-Frame floor plans my wife really wanted one with a potty. That was until she saw that one could cook dinner and use the potty at the same time. After that she would only look at floor plans with out a potty.
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