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Old 05-04-2013, 08:35 AM   #21
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:39 PM   #22
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My uncle, in the UK, used to pull an 18' "coachbuilt" (pronounced "heavy") TT with a Morris Oxford sedan (1500 cc, 50 HP on a good day). Sure it was slow, but they went all over Europe with that combination for over 30 years and never had a problem.

I think the "weight police" (aka the insurance industry's lawyers?) in the US are far too powerful. My Kia Sedona is limited to a towed weight of 3500 pounds in this country. In Europe, the same vehicle (3.5L V-6, 5 speed automatic transmission) is rated for 3000 kilograms (6600 pounds). Is it the legal climate in the US that causes this, are do foreign car makers think American drivers are so incompetent?

Many Brits tow large (>30') TTs with the 4.0L Range Rover. Back in the late 50's, many towed rigs that big with the 2.0L Land Rover. I remember, on one family vacation in the late 1950's, meeting a young couple who had towed a 38' house trailer from the north coast of Scotland to Southampton behind a 1949 Morris Minor, a 1500-pound car with a 35 Hp L-head engine and 4-speed stick.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:38 PM   #23
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I wanted to buy a 4 door Wrangler. It took me 1+1/2 years to get it out of my system. The only reason I didn't get one was because of the pulling weight. I ended up getting a much better vehicle to pull a trailer and also got better mpg and has a lot more room. It is a 2011 Toyota Tacoma double cab 4X4 V6 automatic. It is rated for pulling 6,400 lbs with 4WD. Since I am planning on getting an A-Frame I should have plenty of extra weight while pulling 2,000 lbs.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:14 PM   #24
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I wanted to buy a 4 door Wrangler. It took me 1+1/2 years to get it out of my system. The only reason I didn't get one was because of the pulling weight. I ended up getting a much better vehicle to pull a trailer and also got better mpg and has a lot more room. It is a 2011 Toyota Tacoma double cab 4X4 V6 automatic. It is rated for pulling 6,400 lbs with 4WD. Since I am planning on getting an A-Frame I should have plenty of extra weight while pulling 2,000 lbs.
Not only better pulling power but better stopping power with the larger vehicle. You won't be unhappy with your decision. I agree the Wranglers are über cool, though.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:35 PM   #25
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Not only better pulling power but better stopping power with the larger vehicle. You won't be unhappy with your decision. I agree the Wranglers are über cool, though.
You are right there ham!
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:53 PM   #26
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I'm forcing myself to stay away from the local Jeep dealer these days.
They've got a brand new Wrangler Unlimited in that horrible green colour that I always wanted in the first place (makes 'em look much more Land Roverish...).
It's a Rubicon and fully loaded but it's $45,000
I could get a nice (and admittedly more practical) Tacoma like gt40 for those kind of bucks.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:07 AM   #27
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I take delivery Monday of a never-titled 2012 Flagstaff T12SC. I'll be pulling it with a 2013 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited (i.e., 4-door) with the 3.6 L Pentastar and the Max Tow Package. Tow tests in hilly country went fine, although, of course, both vehicles were more or less unloaded. First road trip will be over Memorial Day.

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Old 05-11-2013, 05:41 AM   #28
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It's a Rubicon and fully loaded but it's $45,000
I could get a nice (and admittedly more practical) Tacoma like gt40 for those kind of bucks.
For almost HALF those "BUCKS".
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It doesn't seem like a lot of weight for that Jeep. If you buy the right setup wdh and tires for the jeep. I would have thought it would be rated higher than 2000 pounds. But all depends on how far you go and speed and setup.
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I figure that with my Tacoma I will be able to pull the A-Frame with some stuff packed away in it and then be able to bring a generator, other stuff and four people in the Tacoma. And hopefully have some weight left over so I don't max out.

I am also planning on going out west to hunt for antelope and mule deer. Hopefully I'll be able to also bring along with the generator a small chest freezer to put the meat in. Also coolers to keep ice and food in.

This may put me to the maximum weight even with only 2 of us going hunting.
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I think there are a couple of others here that pull with a Tacoma, or Taco as I've seen them write. Isn't D-mo one of them?
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:30 AM   #32
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If you buy the right setup wdh and tires for the jeep.
See my post # 18. I don't think the OEM Class II hitch is rated for a WDH.
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[QUOTE="Boruma;373208"If I live to regret trading in my Ram 1500, you all will be the first to know.[/QUOTE]

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When my Tundra finally meets its maker, hopefully in about 10 more years, I'll switch to a Tacoma. They have plenty of pulling power and the shorter, narrower chassis makes them better off road.
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See my post # 18. I don't think the OEM Class II hitch is rated for a WDH.
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check this one out
That is one of our CRD members on LostJeeps.com. Even though he has a Hensley, too much trailer!
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That is one of our CRD members on LostJeeps.com. Even though he has a Hensley, too much trailer!
Well, I considered both photoshop and CRD. The engine might take it but I doubt the Rest is very happy when hooked up.
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Well, I considered both photoshop and CRD. The engine might take it but I doubt the Rest is very happy when hooked up.
Nope, that is a real photo. Even though the CRD is rated outside the North American market for 7500ish pounds with the automatic 5-45RFE, my 4500 pounds of trailer with a hot tune is what I feel is close to max. There is a member who use to tow generators, and towed 7000 pounds of generator and large gauge wire. The generator has a lot less frontal area than a travel trailer.

Edit here is a link to the thread in the LostJeeps Forum.

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB...ic.php?t=55329
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