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Old 11-25-2019, 08:46 PM   #61
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In Maryland, must be upright and secured. Illegal to carry in an enclosed vehicle
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:10 PM   #62
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Forklifts

So why do almost all gas powered forklifts operate with the tank on its side?
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:29 PM   #63
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my motorhome FR3 has a 30 lb tank mounted on its side and all the valves are in the middle of the tank, not on top
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:38 PM   #64
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A full cylinder will have liquid at the relief and valve so if you have a small leak, you get several orders of magnitude more propane leaking. Thatís why they want you to store upright. Also, the relief is not designed for the liquid relief.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:39 PM   #65
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Propane tank

Motorhomes tanks are built different to accommodate a side mount with their valves, etc. Also, note the motorhome tank enclosure are open underneight to the road for ventilation. It is just dangerous to transport a 20 or 30 lb tank on the side that will screw up the tank release overfill expansion. In a vehicle where does the gas go if a problem in an enclosed vehicle like a car? There is a reason why it is prohibited to transport tanks on the side for good reason.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:50 PM   #66
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So why do almost all gas powered forklifts operate with the tank on its side?
great point. make sure the valve is closed and drive like an 80 year old widow going to church. I thought payload threads got reactions ill start more propane threads.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:51 PM   #67
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Please consider the fire fighters and medics. If you get in an accident (you don't count on accidents happening) and there is a fire that heats the propane tank you could easily have a BLEVE and kill the ambulance people and fire fighters who have come to help you. The pressure relief valve must be above the propane level. If the tank is designed to be horizontal it has the relief valve in the proper location. It may not be where you see the fill valve. Please transport them properly. Look at some of the you tube videos of BLEVE. It is one thing to jeopardize your own life, but it isn't fair to jeopardize the lives of people trying to help you. If you can't transport them safely ask a friend with a truck to help.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:59 PM   #68
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If they really wanted to make them safe, at least start out with a base that is the same diameter as the bottle. Then they would not roll around as easy as they do now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:00 PM   #69
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Absolutely consider others in a fire. Recall the hero the other day that was burned helping the moron transporting gasoline that tipped over inside the car while he was smoking. Don't be part of the "thinning the herd" group. Be smart with gasoline and propane transport.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:04 PM   #70
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So why do almost all gas powered forklifts operate with the tank on its side?
They have a special tank that has the pressure relief above the liquid level when the tank is in it's side.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:05 PM   #71
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my motorhome FR3 has a 30 lb tank mounted on its side and all the valves are in the middle of the tank, not on top
Not the relief valve likely! Have a picture? Every horizontal RV tank I have seen has everything near the top of the tank.

here is one example.
https://www.amazon.com/Manchester-11.../dp/B00HTN3HAG
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:11 PM   #72
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Propane molecules dont care

A molecule of propane nor alcohol care nor know their positioning... Just make sure it is secure and does not role and endanger the valve.. which is the reason the DOT does not want such takes on their side.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:16 PM   #73
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A molecule of propane nor alcohol care nor know their positioning... Just make sure it is secure and does not role and endanger the valve.. which is the reason the DOT does not want such takes on their side.
Molecules of propane when its a liquid is quite a bit different than molecules of propane when its a gas which is the reason for the position.
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:24 PM   #74
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Molecules in either state change their chemical nature nor properties by placement.. Water on the floor or in a bottle, same substance... The only thing impacted is the container...
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:36 PM   #75
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Some hot air balloon systems use the tank under a chair mounted sideways.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:20 PM   #76
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I hate too give you more bad news about.transporting propane bottles in your car but thatis not very smart.
Propane is a gas and is heavier than air so it will settle in you trunk.Making for a big bang if ignited I am a professional with welding gases so trust me that could be real bad newes
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:22 PM   #77
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99.9 % of the time these regulations are for commercial operations. And the insurance associated with them. I personally have traveled with them on the side many times. Would I drive through the desert at 100 degrees for any distance over 20 30 minutes no. Just secure it down so no rolling around and banging on stuff.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:28 PM   #78
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Molecules in either state change their chemical nature nor properties by placement.. Water on the floor or in a bottle, same substance... The only thing impacted is the container...
You don't want liquid propane squirting out the relief valve. This is what happens when tanks that are supposed to be vertical are on their side in the event of a pressure relief.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:29 PM   #79
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Some hot air balloon systems use the tank under a chair mounted sideways.
Yes...and its a tank designed to be used horizontally.
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Old 11-25-2019, 11:31 PM   #80
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Also that why the propane compartment is open on the bottom, open to the atomustspere
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