A non-propane heating alternative?

[grumpyoldman]

Originally Posted by PamJohnZephyr

On a trip out west a few weeks ago, we ran into a CG that said, "NO ELECTRIC HEATERS!" on signs throughout the park. So far that's the only place I've seen that banned them. This was in Welcome, MN of all places!

I wonder if that applies to the built in fireplaces that so many RVs come with.

[youroo]

Originally Posted by grumpyoldman

I wonder if that applies to the built in fireplaces that so many RVs come with.

You will have to "ASK the Front Desk" they have the Final Say! Youroo!!

[marinerjoe]

What about electric water heaters?

Jeeze - I'm hijacking my own thread.

[A32Deuce]

Originally Posted by marinerjoe

What about electric water heaters?

Jeeze - I'm hijacking my own thread.

I think they mean an electric heater that Did not come installed in your unit. May be something to do with fire and ability to have a fast response or maybe Insurance reasons. Only way to find out why is to ask, rather then speculate.

[youroo]

This falls under the Same as "50 AMP=upcharge/2 ACs=upcharge/Dog=upcharge/Cable=upcharge/Number of people=upcharge/Pull through Site=upcharge,They make the Rules! Youroo!!

[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by Islander

Not quit.... it's all in the design !

For 25 years we have been using eruo style electric wall heaters in our 3300 sq ft home.
Their design is based on the 'convection effect' causing the heated air to travel within a cavity drawing more air in from the bottom to be heated.
To feel the air being expelled you would think it was fan forced but it is not.

Also ours has the electronic controls that are designed to pulse off and on as compared to be on continually... thus saving power.

So it's not just about watts.... it has a lot to do with design.

I really don't think a 1500 watt hair dryer would heat a 325 sq ft trailer very well.

Islander

BTUs are BTUs. A 1200W hair dryer, while noisey, will put exactly the same amount of heat as a 1200W space heater.

[Skyliner]

My next RV will be larger and have space for a small wood/coal stove.

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How To Install A Kimberly Wood Stove In A Motorhome

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[rockfordroo]

Originally Posted by Skyliner

My next RV will be larger and have space for a small wood/coal stove.

# Cubic mini Wood stove #wood #stove #grizzly #instalation #boat #sail #sailboat #rv #cabin #camping - cubicminiwoodstoves

How To Install A Kimberly Wood Stove In A Motorhome

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/394839092304575279/

Do a search. Someone here has done that.

[tande]

Originally Posted by rockfordroo

BTUs are BTUs. A 1200W hair dryer, while noisey, will put exactly the same amount of heat as a 1200W space heater.

Finally......Thank/You! .....

[5picker]

Originally Posted by Evereddie

I have to say it again. Electric heaters are electric heaters. Watts equals how much heat you get. How pretty the thing is equals how much money you wasted.
Nuff said.

Originally Posted by rockfordroo

BTUs are BTUs. A 1200W hair dryer, while noisey, will put exactly the same amount of heat as a 1200W space heater.

Originally Posted by tande

Finally......Thank/You! .....

I think where many folks get confused is 'perception' of heat.
There's no question 1500w is 1500w but it's the perception of how you feel the energy which is produced that can change what you believe.

I learned this a long time ago when my dad had a workshop in the basement of our home. Here in the mountains it gets cold. He'd run electric heaters in his workshop to keep it warm. He had a rather large 1000w radiant heater and several 1500w forced air heaters.

You could sit in front of those 1500 watt forced air heaters and still be chilly but scoot over in front of that 1000w radiant heater and it would burn your legs off. In your mind you were thinking..."damn, that thing is way hotter than the other heaters!"

The difference was the energy was being transmitted and perceived differently. And while the radiant heater was less wattage, it 'seemed' way hotter than the heaters with higher wattage.

[kayo]

I have never had the problem, but then again, we are hooked up 99% of the time. We have tank heaters if needed

[Cypressloser]

Originally Posted by rockfordroo

Do a search. Someone here has done that.

As much as we prefer the heat from a wood stove but considering the mess and the potential insurance issues, thanks but no thanks. In an old junker, definitely yes.
This heat dish is our favorite at the moment, it is much cheaper than bulk propane at $0.60 per liter plus Carbon Tax and GST.

[Jay2504]

We use 1500 watt small ceramic space heaters that sell now for about $20-30. At the end of the season Walmart will sell them for as little as $6 brand new. I have been using these type of heaters for decades in houses ect. For some reason, probably cheap parts they don’t last too long usually they start popping the internal circuit breakers when set on the high setting. For $6 the 2 or 3 years it’s worth it. I do like some of the ideas I have seen on this thread. Jay

[calhounsl]

We use a small ceramic heater also.

[Dano1955]

Originally Posted by PamJohnZephyr

On a trip out west a few weeks ago, we ran into a CG that said, "NO ELECTRIC HEATERS!" on signs throughout the park. So far that's the only place I've seen that banned them. This was in Welcome, MN of all places!

Wonder how they would know? Also wonder if they ban the use of electric fireplaces?

[A32Deuce]

How about heat pumps or heat strips? Can't run AC in the summer?

[Hoglou]

We use the heat pump down to 45 then use an oil filled radiator heater, no threat of combustion like with a open element.....

[W5CI]

Electric Heaters from Walmart or Home Depot

[fella10]

since we don't carry any propane, all our heating is done with two small ceramic heaters, ... I use an extra extension cord(yellow cord in pic below) plugged into the power poll 110 outlet(20amp) to power those heaters, ... that keeps them from being a draw on the 30 amp system and in a way gives us a 50 amp service for our Micro Lite 25KS, ... works great and we stay toasty warm,

[marinerjoe]

An update on my post. The electric heater I originally talked about, while relatively low wattage, is performing very well. Albeit in mild climates. On this trip (our first out of our area by the way), we overnighted at South of the Boarder and KOA Mount Pleasant, and are currently in St. Augustine. We used the propane heater to get the temperature up, and shut it down while the Envi heater was more than capable of maintaining a comfortable temperature. On our 21FBRS we have it mounted on the cabinet/wall under the TV. For those with my model or the Rockwood 2109S, we removed the non-opening door at the bottom and put the heater right there. I’ll get a picture after SWMBO wakes up.