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12-28-2018, 07:24 PM
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Where to get this fill fitting
2018 Forester 3051s. The fill valve on the propane tank needs to be replaced. Can anyone tell me who the manufacturer is, or even the part name and number? It’s not worth the expense to drive to a dealer who will take six weeks to fix.
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12-28-2018, 07:29 PM
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Go to a shop that installs propane equipment. Not an RV dealer. They can safely remove the propane, fix the inlet, test and refill in one visit.
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12-28-2018, 07:31 PM
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What makes you believe the valve is bad?
You can get one here:
https://propanewarehouse.com/shop/fi...nk-fill-valve/
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12-28-2018, 07:37 PM
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This is what you would need to replace the fill valve.
Out of curiosity Why does it need replaced in such a short time.
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12-28-2018, 07:39 PM
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Thats only for tanks built prior to 1998 with no OPD.
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12-28-2018, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve-W
Thats only for tanks built prior to 1998 with no OPD.
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When did they start putting OPD's on horizontal chassis mounted tanks????
20# and 30# tanks yes. Rest---no.
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12-28-2018, 08:07 PM
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NFPA as of 2002.
As of April 1, 2002, OPDs are required on all propane cylinders between 4 and 40 pounds propane capacity, per the 1998 edition of NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code. Cylinders of this size manufactured after September 30, 1998, were required to have an OPD. A typical gas grill cylinder holds about 20 pounds of propane.
Reference is here.
The tank in a 3051 is 9.8 gallons or approximately 40#. When mine is filled its very obvious that the flow is abruptly shut off at about 80% full.
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12-28-2018, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve- W
This is what you would need to replace the fill valve.
Out of curiosity Why does it need replaced in such a short time.
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I’ve never been able to get more than ½ fill. Once the tank would not accept more than 2/10 gallon, even though I knew the tank was below ¼ fill.
When I stopped to fill up at a Tractor Supply in Mississippi we ran into the same problem. Good ole boy working there said he had seen the problem several times on motor homes. He said the spring loaded internal shutoff in the valve was stuck. To verify that he put a plastic rod into the valve and gave it a few taps, with each one releasing a fairly strong spurt of propane. Hooked up the big tank and put seven gallons in.
This guy appeared to have a lot of experience with propane systems so I tend to believe him when he said the problem might recur the next time I filled, or it might last for 7-8 more fills. But, it was definitely going to fail.
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12-28-2018, 08:45 PM
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Interesting mode of failure. You may be able to get FR warranty to reimburse you for the cost of repair. Get approval from them first. Dealr would probably want to swap the entire tank not just valve.
I have heard they can be rebuilt but probably not worth the effort. I would have to agree with Deuce find a good shop that can evac the tank replace the valve and fill. You dont want to remove the fill valve with any pressure in the tank.
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12-28-2018, 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve-W
Interesting mode of failure. You may be able to get FR warranty to reimburse you for the cost of repair. Get approval from them first. Dealr would probably want to swap the entire tank not just valve.
I have heard they can be rebuilt but probably not worth the effort. I would have to agree with Deuce find a good shop that can evac the tank replace the valve and fill. You dont want to remove the fill valve with any pressure in the tank.
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I’m definitely hesitant anytime I’m around anything that can shock or burn me. I think I found a specialized propane facility about 10 miles away. Will give them a call Monday.
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12-28-2018, 09:05 PM
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They are Rego valves. 7647sc 3/4"NPT connection. the valves are like $25.
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12-28-2018, 09:12 PM
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They are Rego valves. 7647sc 3/4"NPT connection. the valves are like $25.
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Thank you very much. Just found it on Amazon. Looks like a perfect replacement.
https://www.amazon.com/Rego-Propane-...k+filler+valve
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12-28-2018, 10:07 PM
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Are you replacing this yourself?
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12-28-2018, 10:12 PM
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Yep. I would definitely go to a propane dealer/distributor and have them replace it.
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12-28-2018, 10:32 PM
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Are you replacing this yourself?
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No. I’m a little slow but not yet at a complete stop. Turning metal on metal with a big wrench next to propane is not something I’m comfortable with.
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12-30-2018, 10:15 AM
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Call the manufacturer...they have been very helpful to me.
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01-02-2019, 03:58 PM
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That will be a stop fill valve probably ceodeux (V13414 manchester tank Part#)
RegO makes fill valves but they don't make stop fill valves.
That valve has a float in the tank that shut off the flow. the valve is installed on the 80% line of the tank to prevent overfill and yes most of them are a POS.
Contact your local LP gas dealers (not refillers like pilot/loves) and see if the will order and install for you. i would be bitching to the dealer but i understand your reasoning.
Good Luck
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01-13-2019, 12:22 AM
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Update...project complete. Went by two propane dealers and was told by both that they fill MH tanks but do not work on them.
One of the places was kind enough to demonstrate on one of their tanks how to remove the valve. They said my valve was probably one with the overfill protection device which has a history of high failure rates.
Yep...that’s what it was.
That valve was installed with the “top” marker indication offset about 30 degrees. That alone would stop the fill at about 65 percent, and worse if the MH was parked nose down during filling. The dealer pointed out that that was probably the problem but since there was no way to test the fitting it should be replaced. Since the tank comes with a pressure relief fitting the OPD setup is redundant. I replaced it with the standard “Rego” brand valve and all is well now.
Many thanks to Shoooey for pointing me in the right direction.
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01-13-2019, 05:34 PM
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Out of curiosity, what is the secret to removing the valve safely? Wondering what the dealer who gave you the advice said. Glad you got it taken care of.
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I'm glad you got it changed without incident. And now you can finally get a full tank.
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