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01-03-2021, 10:30 PM
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Slide out with no power 2021 19BHLE
Hello friends,
Returned from camping today with no issues. Returned home and ready to clean out the rig and the slide won't open. No sound at the motors..nada. Checked all fuses and circuit breakers. Found the controller WAY under the slide. I had to reach my hand way under there to record a video of the controller to see if any lights were flashing. No lights illuminated at all. My first assumption is that there is no power going to the controller. Where do I go from here?
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01-03-2021, 10:48 PM
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The OP has a Surveyor.
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01-04-2021, 10:48 AM
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Make sure your batteries are fully charged and you are plugged in then check for a resettable fuse somewhere along the line coming from the battery to the slide. It will be a rectangle shape with a reset button. good luck
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01-04-2021, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaDog
Make sure your batteries are fully charged and you are plugged in then check for a resettable fuse somewhere along the line coming from the battery to the slide. It will be a rectangle shape with a reset button. good luck
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Thanks Dog..plugged in to shore power and battery at 100%.. The power line leaves my battery and disappears into my sealed undercarriage. If I knew exactly where that resettable fuse was I would feel more confident tearing into the underbelly. Ii have an arctic package
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01-04-2021, 03:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theoriginal
Thanks Dog..plugged in to shore power and battery at 100%.. The power line leaves my battery and disappears into my sealed undercarriage. If I knew exactly where that resettable fuse was I would feel more confident tearing into the underbelly. Ii have an arctic package
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If you're using the idiot lights to determine that the battery is 100%, while plugged in, the battery could be still dead. Those lights will always show 100%, when plugged into shore power. You need to test the battery with a multimeter, without being plugged into shore power.
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and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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01-04-2021, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theoriginal
Thanks Dog..plugged in to shore power and battery at 100%.. The power line leaves my battery and disappears into my sealed undercarriage. If I knew exactly where that resettable fuse was I would feel more confident tearing into the underbelly. Ii have an arctic package
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I've never seen a resettable circuit breaker up in the covered underbelly.
Have you checked for 12v at the controller?
I know you said it was hard to reach but you have to start with basics and the first step is checking for voltage at the switches/controller.
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01-04-2021, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
If you're using the idiot lights to determine that the battery is 100%, while plugged in, the battery could be still dead. Those lights will always show 100%, when plugged into shore power. You need to test the battery with a multimeter, without being plugged into shore power.
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Plugged into shore power and brand new lithium battery that has its own "idiot lights" showing 100%. Tried with shore power and just battery. Same result.
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01-04-2021, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Theoriginal
Plugged into shore power and brand new lithium battery that has its own "idiot lights" showing 100%. Tried with shore power and just battery. Same result.
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Got it. Used to FLA batteries that don't have their own idiot lights.
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and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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01-05-2021, 12:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
I've never seen a resettable circuit breaker up in the covered underbelly.
Have you checked for 12v at the controller?
I know you said it was hard to reach but you have to start with basics and the first step is checking for voltage at the switches/controller.
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was able to reach my phone way under the slide out and took a video of the control. No lights coming from the control so I am guessing no power is going to the control
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01-05-2021, 03:49 AM
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The same procedures apply no matter the motor or mechanism.
Motor Burned out or jammed.
Switch bad switch or loose connections
Circuit. Hot wire and Ground Wire. Check all connections
Anyone reverse the wires?
Short to power?
Short to ground?
Fuses
Disconnect power
Disconnect connection to motor
Assuming its 12v connect test light to hot lead and ground it.
Reconnect power
Using switch should produce complete circuit.
Hot circuit good?
Check ground.
test light negative?
Check switch
If its bad, check switch.
Substitute or add ground to motor.
At some point disconnect linkage from motor is necessary.
The motor may have failed.
It may function in one direction and work in reverse.
find out if motor is reversing polarity such as an electric trolling motor.
How many motors?
If the wiring is bad, you might have to disconnect power to the motor and bring in a new hot lead from battery.
Its a game of isolation. Ive never actually had to do this on a trailer, but just imagine the set up on a bench. This just takes longer. If you have to crawl underneath, drive it up on boards and use a creeper.
Write down exactly the tests you want to create and the steps it takes to do so.
If you fly by the seat of your pants, you may short it out.
Dont assume you SEE every fuse panel.
My EVO has a fuse panel.... Behind the brown flip down panel
That cost me a mobile RV mechanic trip, to find out why my awning would not roll out, after i shorted the circuit and burned out a fuse.
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01-05-2021, 12:03 PM
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Got it fixed
Simple fix once I was able to gain better access. Darn power line had become disconnected at the controller. The controller is in the worst place, under the slide. I had to remove the bunk ladder to squeeze closer and barely get my arm down there. Still not sure how that line wiggled loose. I had the wife bring the slide in and out as I watched and no interference whatsoever. The photo shows where my controller is incase it helps anyone else locate theirs.
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01-05-2021, 03:55 PM
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Definitely a Schwintek. My Schwintek slide is somewhat worse.
I blew a fuse when the slide was in, only to find that the controller AND my breaker/fuse panel were blocked, with only a 2 inch gap from the top.
Took me hours to figure out how to the fuses with a pair of 90° pliers and a contorted arm.
But I didn't have to remove all the slide fascia to disconnect the motors.
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and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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01-23-2021, 09:34 PM
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Junior Member
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2021 Surveyor 19BHLE
Thanks for the photo with the "X". We've also just purchased one of these and I will keep your photo for reference. Thank you and hopefully that is the worst of it! We've been out twice so far this year and so far no issues.
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