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Old 09-29-2019, 03:00 PM   #1
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3500 watt generator

I have a kipor 3500 synwave generator. I thought about carrying it when I camp, just in case. I used it on my older 5th wheel, did not have a surge protector with, or on it. My question, I hooked the kipor to me 5th wheel, it does have a hardwired progressive industries surge protector. The protector would not let the juice past it, says open ground. So basically it is useless to me. I did hook my 10,000 watt generator, that has a 50 amp plug, runs everything in the camper, even with 2 airs kicked on. But it is noisy. Any ideas as to what I could use for a 3500-4000 watt gen, or something that I could do to use my Kipor. I did run a jumper wire, from the ground clamp on the gen, to a ground stake, 8' in the ground. Thanks
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Old 09-29-2019, 03:24 PM   #2
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You need to make an “Edison plug”:
https://learntorv.com/generator-may-...with-your-ems/
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You need to make an “Edison plug”:

X2 ... Yep, ependydad is right, easy to make and works, ... here's a YouTube video that shows how ...

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Old 09-29-2019, 04:28 PM   #4
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More than likely all you need to do is use the ground lug on the generator. It would be fairly easy using a single conductor test cord similar to the attached picture connected to a nail on lag bolt in the ground. Then the generator would be properly grounded.
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Old 09-29-2019, 05:56 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone, built a plug for it, works great
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More than likely all you need to do is use the ground lug on the generator. It would be fairly easy using a single conductor test cord similar to the attached picture connected to a nail on lag bolt in the ground. Then the generator would be properly grounded.
This won't cure the issue the OP is having. His EMS is looking for a "bond" between the ground and neutral. When hooked to shore power this is present in the supply system. Generators don't have neutral bonded to ground thus the need to use the "Edison Plug".

BTW, if one doesn't have or want to buy a replacement plug to make this here's an alternative.


If you have an old broken power tool WITH 3-Prong plug, Cut a 6" piece off the cord, including the plug. Strip back the insulation, cut off the black wire, then strip and twist together the White and Green wires. Put a wire nut on it and tape it up all nice and watertight.

This will provide the "bond" needed to fool the EMS into accepting power from the generator.

Often people have 3-prong plugs that are molded onto the end of a defunct power tool, extension cord that got run over by the lawnmower, etc. Saves a trip to the hardware store.
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:29 PM   #7
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This won't cure the issue the OP is having. His EMS is looking for a "bond" between the ground and neutral. When hooked to shore power this is present in the supply system. Generators don't have neutral bonded to ground thus the need to use the "Edison Plug".

BTW, if one doesn't have or want to buy a replacement plug to make this here's an alternative.


If you have an old broken power tool WITH 3-Prong plug, Cut a 6" piece off the cord, including the plug. Strip back the insulation, cut off the black wire, then strip and twist together the White and Green wires. Put a wire nut on it and tape it up all nice and watertight.

This will provide the "bond" needed to fool the EMS into accepting power from the generator.

Often people have 3-prong plugs that are molded onto the end of a defunct power tool, extension cord that got run over by the lawnmower, etc. Saves a trip to the hardware store.
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